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What is Joana ?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 3:00 pm
by dante
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Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 3:27 pm
by Bud Weiser
Ooops,- a new hardware device ...

Where does that announcement come from ?

:o

Bud

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 5:48 pm
by valis
Very interesting. I would love to see S|C back on the stage with new offerings to shore up that side of Holger's undertakings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsklsxReSe0

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:19 pm
by HUROLURA

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 5:07 am
by Bud Weiser
Maybe SC unexpectedly goes "native" w/ a new USB-C audio interface and overhauled XTC application ?

IIRC, XTC was announced as a seprate application for the future after SCOPE6 never saw the daylight.

Well, I´d appreciate to see an extension box for XITE-1´s XTDM port,- whatever that would be,- and prefer that over any "native" solutions.
But that´s only my wet dream.

:)

Bud

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 3:35 pm
by yayajohn
Joana is Jomama!
:D

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 8:35 pm
by Rafe
Using Joana in the studio has more of a ring to it
:)

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 1:44 am
by dante
Be good if Holger decided to go head to head with UAD’s Volt !

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 4:45 am
by Bud Weiser
But there are so many USB audio interfaces on the market, do we really need another one ?
I bought a mint RME Babyface for 200.- incl. breakout cable, PSU and orig. bag,- just only to have one.
It´s really good w/ Totalmix FX and Digicheck tools.
But no way do I get the low latency I get w/ SCOPE/XITE and SCOPE ASIO.
I´d say it´s almost impossible w/ USB.
I recognized, almost any USB-C interface is USB2 only.
OTOH, I can imagine Holger put a nice DSP inside.

:)

Bud

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 2:24 am
by dante
Doesn’t have to be USB. TB4 works good. Or the same HDMI adaptor as xite

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 5:18 am
by Bud Weiser
dante wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 2:24 am Doesn’t have to be USB. TB4 works good. Or the same HDMI adaptor as xite
When you have a motherboard supporting TB4.
None of my machines does,- DAW desktop machines "no TB at all", both laptops "TB2",- I guess,- maybe "TB3" at best.

:)

Bud

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 6:12 am
by HUROLURA
"HDMI" adaptor for Xite-1 has nothing to do with HDMI except for the connector.
Similar to Z-Link recycling old good FireWire connectors while not being at all FireWire.
Connection between Xite-1 and Mono is achieved using PCI-e or PCI-Express interface (which are just the same: one for tower PC and the other for mobile PC) but both interface are becoming quite rare on nowadays computers ...

Would be a good idea though to have Joana has a new kind of Xite using TB4 (using the USB-C part of TB4 which would make such a device also USB-C compatible I guess), then providing an XTDM interface to allow the extension of a Joana using an "old" good Xite-1 ...

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 6:47 am
by Bud Weiser
Yeah,- don´t want a "new XITE".
XTDM interface would be my 1st choice,- something compatible w/ the network standards used in pro studios andfor big events (PA),- AES67, Dante, Ravenna.
I can imagine a small box containing the card and 2 (primary/secondary) Neutrik professional RJ45 connectors connected to XTDM via a short standard D-Sub cable.
Would offer lowest latency possible,- better than using Dante Virtual Soundcard w/ Dante Controller and ASIO.
Way under 1ms,- 32x32 channels,- possibly 64x64 channels up to 96KHz too ... I guess.

:)

Bud

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 10:58 am
by dante
Bud Weiser wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 5:18 am
When you have a motherboard supporting TB4.
None of my machines does
:)

Bud
Mine does and all future machines will. Wouldn’t be without it these days. Also, what’s to say Joana won’t be Mac compatible ? Getting into that market wouldn’t be a bad thing for S|C

Holger asked what we would want it to be. My answer is something for the future.

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 8:45 pm
by scary808
Network interfacing similar to Metric Halo and MOTU stuff would be amazing.

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 12:06 am
by dante
I wonder if he named it after his wife.

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 1:20 am
by Bud Weiser
dante wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:58 am
Mine does and all future machines will. Wouldn’t be without it these days.
I guess, PC´s most TB connections will be combined TB/USB-C still.
Up to now, it was confirmed these don´t work well w/ SCOPE realtime processing.
dante wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:58 am Also, what’s to say Joana won’t be Mac compatible ? Getting into that market wouldn’t be a bad thing for S|C
QFT !
dante wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:58 am Holger asked what we would want it to be. My answer is something for the future.
Whose future,- your´s, his, mine ?

:)

Bud

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 1:23 am
by Bud Weiser
dante wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 12:06 am I wonder if he named it after his wife.
Or he is a "Roland Kaiser" fan ... :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIqtZKlgbGU

:D

Bud

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 12:20 pm
by dante
Bud Weiser wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 1:20 am
dante wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:58 am Holger asked what we would want it to be. My answer is something for the future.
Whose future,- your´s, his, mine ?

:)

Bud
Everyone. Mainly Holger's but I don't see any reason to exclude anyone when we don't even know what it is :lol:

e.g. if it was a PA transmitter, Id probably wouldnt buyed it but i'd like to see Holger make some $$$ out of it.

Re: What is Joana ?

Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 12:37 pm
by Bud Weiser
dante wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 12:20 pm ... I don't see any reason to exclude anyone when we don't even know what it is :lol:
because this became a speculation thread !

:D

Bud