Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Request a new device/modular module, and hope that some enterprising developer grants your wish!

Moderators: valis, garyb

Post Reply
User avatar
yayajohn
Posts: 1689
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:01 pm
Location: Everywhere....Nowhere

Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by yayajohn »

Wondering if there's anything already out there similiar to this one by j9k but with some extra features (Scope device only please)
https://sites.google.com/site/j9kj9kj9k ... ects=0&d=1

-Note triggered
-select sync up to 2 bars or time >5000 ms

For example I want to tap a note on my keyboard/drum pad and have it open my AUX effects send in 2 bars time from fully closed to fully open
without having to hold the note down.

I understand that any modern DAW is capable of this with automation so please don't respond with that answer, thanks :wink:
User avatar
dante
Posts: 5043
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by dante »

Maybe something could be done in Modular with EG controlling a VCA? Not sure about the tempo sync but tho :o
User avatar
yayajohn
Posts: 1689
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:01 pm
Location: Everywhere....Nowhere

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by yayajohn »

Yeah I guess I could rig it up through a modular shell. Might have a go at that.
User avatar
Spielraum
Posts: 696
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:11 pm
Location: Raumschiff Erde

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by Spielraum »

v1 [ ] Delay of Note Off Event?
v2 [ ] or should a note-off event with a delay be generated by a trigger (Note On event)?
|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅] Lange Welle ~ Mittelwelle ~ Kurze Welle ~ Ultra Kurze Welle
Scope Sandbox soundcloud ~ youtube ~ bc modular-guide° ~ modules-SR
User avatar
yayajohn
Posts: 1689
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:01 pm
Location: Everywhere....Nowhere

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by yayajohn »

Hmm not sure but I don't want it to trigger back to 0 after you release the note. I was thinking of the ability to choose a separate midi note to close the AUX send either immediately or over the same selectable time.

I spent the morning muddling around in modular. There seemed to be some possibilities but I haven't quite put it all together yet.
I'm a little bit rusty with the modular right now.

Are you thinking of a modular patch or a device Spielraum?

So this whole idea started when I was jamming along and I wanted to slowly add my aux effects and of course I can just use an expression pedal for that but that requires extra brain power and foot coordination. So I thought it would be a lot easier if I could just hit a pad to trigger the ramp up to slowly blend in the effects and then hit another pad to slowly blend them out sort of like the way a leslie rotor speeds up and slows down.
User avatar
dante
Posts: 5043
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by dante »

Like a triggered autowah
User avatar
Spielraum
Posts: 696
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:11 pm
Location: Raumschiff Erde

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by Spielraum »

v3 [x] Note2trig+hld2CC
yayajohn wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:52 pm ...hit a pad to trigger the ramp up to slowly blend in the effects and then hit another pad to slowly blend them out...
SR-module v1,2,3, good idea, will see.
say yes, if you need what a module!

i think dante is right. eg:
Image
+
Image
when hold time enought
+
Image
+
Image
>EG Out over Range to D2 In
Image
set D1 to your Destination Midi CC

.
..
.
dante wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:33 pm Like a triggered autowah
have you an example? basicly SC-wahwah?
v0 [ ] trig Depth or Mod Phase or Both or switchable?
v1 [ ] Midi Note On to Retrig?
v2 [ ] Midi CC Threshld to Retrig?
v3 [ ] Sync Val Threshld to Retrig?
|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅] Lange Welle ~ Mittelwelle ~ Kurze Welle ~ Ultra Kurze Welle
Scope Sandbox soundcloud ~ youtube ~ bc modular-guide° ~ modules-SR
User avatar
yayajohn
Posts: 1689
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:01 pm
Location: Everywhere....Nowhere

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by yayajohn »

Spielraum wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:50 pm v3 [x] Note2trig+hld2CC
yayajohn wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:52 pm ...hit a pad to trigger the ramp up to slowly blend in the effects and then hit another pad to slowly blend them out...
SR-module v1,2,3, good idea, will see.
say yes, if you need what a module!

i think dante is right. eg:
Image
+
Image
when hold time enought
+
Image
+
Image
>EG Out over Range to D2 In
Image
set D1 to your Destination Midi CC

.
..
.
dante wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:33 pm Like a triggered autowah
have you an example? basicly SC-wahwah?
v0 [ ] trig Depth or Mod Phase or Both or switchable?
v1 [ ] Midi Note On to Retrig?
v2 [ ] Midi CC Threshld to Retrig?
v3 [ ] Sync Val Threshld to Retrig?
Thanks! I will give it a try.
User avatar
dante
Posts: 5043
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: Melbourne Australia
Contact:

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by dante »

Spielraum wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:50 pm
dante wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:33 pm Like a triggered autowah
have you an example? basicly SC-wahwah?

Nah no example - my Modular chops are lame :lol: But conceptually my starting point was to think of a synth but instead of an oscillator passing thru the VCA its just a normal audio signal. And the ADSR slow at all ADSR points - or like you mentioned something to 'hold' it open until a second midi trigger. There's a modular module MVC C to convert note on to CV (I think) so maybe assign one note to start and another note to close. I know this is a bit vague but like I said bout my Modular chops :-?
User avatar
yayajohn
Posts: 1689
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:01 pm
Location: Everywhere....Nowhere

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by yayajohn »

Here is the result of the days labors. Much thanks to Spielraum for helping me get started.
I have this set to control the AUx send 1 dial in the STM2448 mixer. NN22 triggers it to open very slowly and stays open with an ENV loop to basically infinity haha. Then NN22 will close it per the decay set in the AD Vintage. Any other note will close it immediately.

https://youtu.be/Ce5L5UjT9iI

MIDINotetoCCEnvelope.jpg
MIDINotetoCCEnvelope.jpg (87.12 KiB) Viewed 7705 times


Instructions:
-Set your note on and off numbers in the gateSwitcher
-Set your CC output with the R8 CtrlA dial
-Adjust your Envelopes as desired.

Prob not going to ever get it to sync per bar but this will do for now.

Hope it works for you. Haven't been in modular in a while so I probably screwed something up or did something that will make you scratch your head so comments and suggestions are welcome.
it was a fun day.
Cheers

Dan
Last edited by yayajohn on Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:58 pm, edited 4 times in total.
User avatar
valis
Posts: 7299
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: West Coast USA
Contact:

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by valis »

Per bar is easier if you have Flexor3.
User avatar
yayajohn
Posts: 1689
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:01 pm
Location: Everywhere....Nowhere

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by yayajohn »

valis wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:09 am Per bar is easier if you have Flexor3.
Tried some Ramps (including Flexor3) but it resets and repeats. I've never set up a sequencer patch in modular so I'm unfamiliar.

Is there another module you are thinking of?
User avatar
yayajohn
Posts: 1689
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:01 pm
Location: Everywhere....Nowhere

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by yayajohn »

---
Last edited by yayajohn on Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Spielraum
Posts: 696
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:11 pm
Location: Raumschiff Erde

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by Spielraum »

du wirst warm? thats nice!

> N2X |MODULES #Spielraum >
https://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic.php?p=349901#p349901
Last edited by Spielraum on Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅] Lange Welle ~ Mittelwelle ~ Kurze Welle ~ Ultra Kurze Welle
Scope Sandbox soundcloud ~ youtube ~ bc modular-guide° ~ modules-SR
User avatar
yayajohn
Posts: 1689
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:01 pm
Location: Everywhere....Nowhere

Re: Note Triggered MIDI CC Envelope or Ramp

Post by yayajohn »

:o Thank you. You are awesome!
Post Reply