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Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:28 am
by medway
Ok so after trying to use Cubase 10/11 on Win 10 using the old Scope 5 in Win 7 compatibility mode I encountered some issues, mainly due to performance from the Win 7 compatibility mode. Cubase runs sluggish, opening the key command menu for instance takes 45 seconds. And selecting tracks in a large project has delay.

I tried an old usb soundcard in non compatibility mode to test and that works fine.

So seems finally updating to Scope 7 is the answer. Anyone using Cubase 11 with it though? Just want to make sure before I purchase that it's all running fine.

Cheers

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:15 am
by nebelfuerst
I recently did some tests with Win10/Scope7 with expresscard and Xite.
Cubase 9LE, Ableton and Bitwig worked pretty good. I primarily tested, how precise the DAW started and stayed in sync to an external midi sequencer for 30min.
I didn'n notice any issues with cubase, but as I decided to go for ableton and bitwig, the cubase tests weren't that deep.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:32 pm
by medway
Thanks. Are Bitwig and Ableton working well then?

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:59 pm
by ChristianB
Running Cubase 10.5 and scope 7 and win10. Works fine

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:17 am
by Rolf
Hello,
I am using Cubase 11, Scope Xite-1, Fireface 800, iconnectAUDIO2+, FerroFish Pulse 16 in one computer with Scope Xite as my main Soundcard (44,1khz, ULLI 3ms) 2.925 latency i/0 in Cubase with no problems.

Cheers R

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:06 pm
by medway
Thank you, just ordered.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:44 pm
by fidox
Using Windows 10 64bit pro, Scope 7 and new Cubase Artist 11 update.
Works fine.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:29 am
by medway
Btw I read through the main 7 thread a while back but can't remember the consensus on how to install. Do I just install side by side with 5?

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:17 am
by fidox
medway wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:29 am Btw I read through the main 7 thread a while back but can't remember the consensus on how to install. Do I just install side by side with 5?


No, just 7 or 5, not both in the same time.
I was just saving to other location my preset files, project files, some devices, then clean install and then some stuff back to version 7.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:14 am
by medway
fidox wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:17 am
medway wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:29 am Btw I read through the main 7 thread a while back but can't remember the consensus on how to install. Do I just install side by side with 5?

No, just 7 or 5, not both in the same time.
I was just saving to other location my preset files, project files, some devices, then clean install and then some stuff back to version 7.

Thanks so do I need to uninstall 5 first after copying it over to another folder to copy back what I need?

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:32 am
by nebelfuerst
Just install 7 parallel to 5. 7 will work, but 5 not.
To make 5 work, you have to downgrade drivers in device manager. ( .. and upgrade drivers to go back to 7)

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:38 am
by fidox
medway wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:14 am Thanks so do I need to uninstall 5 first after copying it over to another folder to copy back what I need?

I think i didn't do uninstall, but just installed new 7 version and copied back what i needed and deleted version 5.
That was 3 years back.
Do some more research here from other users too :)

For drivers in Device Manager i have little forget, but must be mentioned here at this forum too.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:06 am
by garyb
it's never a bad idea to back up the Scope folder first, but you can install into the v5 folder...

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:41 am
by medway
Thanks everyone. That was a lot easier to install than I expected. Even saves the default project which was nice. For a moment the windows driver wasn't working (showed as 0 volume and wouldn't let me turn up). But after testing Cubase with the ASIO driver when I quit the Windows one started working so not sure what that was.

I did notice I seem to have two ASIO drivers now. One says Scope ASIO and the other Scope ASIO PCI. In some apps (like Cubase or Wavelab) I can only select the Scope ASIO one but in Ableton I can do both. Both seem to work though. Do I need to remove one of those or just leave it as is?

Cheers

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:03 am
by medway
Actually getting some dropouts on the Windows driver so might not be the new one. I'll go through that thread again.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:04 am
by fidox
ASIO SCOPE, not sure for Ableton, just Cubase Artist 11 here.

Pictures:
Cubase, Sound Forge shows just ASIO SCOPE and driver version from Device Manager.

I would try to uninstall cards and drivers from device manager and install just driver part again.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:14 am
by medway
Thanks, got that same date for my driver. Will see if I can uninstall the wave drivers by setting it to 0 and then back to 1.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:22 am
by medway
Ok set it to 0 and then let Scope reinstall again but still get dropouts in Youtube and mp3 player. I'm using the normal Wave driver.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:27 am
by fidox
medway wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:22 am Ok set it to 0 and then let Scope reinstall again but still get dropouts in Youtube and mp3 player. I'm using the normal Wave driver.
This is my computer where i have few Luna II cards, just for internet and multimedia, mp3 player, Youtube, movies,
it's Scope 5 version, but try lowering the latency, which i did, after i searched what can i do about dropouts.
It's simple project which is running with Windows startup.

Re: Scope 7 and Cubase 11

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:29 am
by medway
Hi thanks. You you mean raising the latency? I usually run on the largest setting. I think that's for ASIO only though? ASIO is working fine it's just the Windows driver I was getting dropouts from.

I changed my mp3 player to WASAPI and that seems to have solved it there. Just Youtube to figure out now as there's not an option for that as far as I know.