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[SOLVED] Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:36 pm
by CreamWare4Ever
Hello,
I have an odd problem.
When listening to audio through the Wave Source, like YouTube and Media Player, the left and right side plays inverted.
The output from a DAW(s) is OK. Very strange.
I've noticed this in Windows 7 and Windows 10.
I'm using the Scope Luna card with 3 DPS.
Any idea?
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Cheers.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:50 pm
by valis
Explain 'inverted'. Channels swapped? Out of phase?
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:16 am
by CreamWare4Ever
valis wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:50 pm
Explain 'inverted'. Channels swapped? Out of phase?
The left channel sound on the right side, and vice versa.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:24 am
by CreamWare4Ever
valis wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:50 pm
Channels swapped?
Yes, simply put.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:31 am
by valis
Let's see an image of your cable routing in the project.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:59 am
by CreamWare4Ever
valis wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:31 am
Let's see an image of your cable routing in the project.
Sure, here:
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:30 am
by valis
Scope & Win: 64bit or 32bit?
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:05 am
by t_tangent
I know it might sound obvious, but are you 100% sure you have double checked the physical cables from your Luna card to your monitors or to your outboard monitor amp or mixer. If you have a mass of cables it can be easy to accidentally connect the left and right cables the wrong way around.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:10 am
by CreamWare4Ever
t_tangent wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:05 am
I know it might sound obvious, but are you 100% sure you have double checked the physical cables from your Luna card to your monitors or to your outboard monitor amp or mixer. If you have a mass of cables it can be easy to accidentally connect the left and right cables the wrong way around.
Yes, I have triple checked everything. Let me explain, this is only happening with sound sources OUTSIDE the DAW, in Win 7 and Win 10.
Audio from Cubase is actually playing correctly...
Super strange.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:38 am
by valis
That's because it's using ASIO, I would presume. Correct?
And you didn't clarify 32bit or 64bit for Win/Scope. Your answer likely lies there, but...
To be clear, we have to eliminate the variables we don't know on the other side of the screen, before providing an answer that fits a particular case. Note the announcement at the top of this forum.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:45 am
by CreamWare4Ever
valis wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:38 am
That's because it's using ASIO, I would presume. Correct?
And you didn't clarify 32bit or 64bit for Win/Scope. Your answer likely lies there, but...
To be clear, we have to eliminate the variables we don't know on the other side of the screen, before providing an answer that fits a particular case. Note the announcement at the top of this forum.
Yes, I'm using the Scope v5.1.2709-x64 only.
I'm not using the MOBO onboard sound card.
Windows 10 Pro x64 installation.
Please let me know if you need more info.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:46 am
by valis
I believe 64bit is your issue, but will let GaryB confirm.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:02 am
by CreamWare4Ever
valis wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:30 am
Scope & Win: 64bit or 32bit?
Scope & Win x64.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:07 am
by valis
No need to respond twice, I gathered that was the case from your previous reply:
CreamWare4Ever wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:45 am
Yes, I'm using the Scope v5.1.2709-x64 only.
I'm not using the MOBO onboard sound card.
Windows 10 Pro x64 installation.
Await GaryB, I was merely gathering the requesite information in his absence.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:52 am
by t_tangent
Check the 5th post here, it seems the Wave source reversed is a known bug....not sure if there has been a fix since then but this might at least explain your issue.
http://forums.scopeusers.com/viewtopic. ... 69#p271709
I am sure GaryB can provide up to date info on this.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:48 am
by garyb
just swap the cables if it bothers you.
Re: Inverted L/R > R/L from Wave Source audio signal
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:10 am
by CreamWare4Ever
garyb wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:48 am
just swap the cables if it bothers you.
Yes, that's an elegant solution.
Thanks.