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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2001 7:12 pm
by Signal X
Which chipset 845 or 850?
SDRAM or RDRAM?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2001 7:22 pm
by subhuman
i850 or wait a 4-8 weeks, we will begin to see i845 with DDR support. If performance matters to you, do not buy a P4 with SDRAM now, as this new release is imminent. Go i850 or wait is my advice.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2001 11:41 pm
by Demon4ik
Maybe guru pulsarian think he is computer guru ?..
The Intel corporation must sell something for RDRAM cause they have contract with RAMBUS. i850 just commercial move of Intel, no one need this RDRAM`s shit.
Take any normal benchmark programm and You will see by yourself - i845 have the same performance (maybe 10% slower) on FPU-->memory test, Strange for device what costs 40% cheaper, don`t You think so ?
DDR will be better than SDRAM and RDRAM together.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 12:00 am
by subhuman
Here are some links to back up my findings.
(in particular:
http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/ ... m4-13.html )
http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2001 ... dex.x?pg=4
http://216.162.121.34/?doc=70&page=1
http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q3/010702/
Clearly, i845+SDRAM is out performed by the i850+RDRAM. This is because the P4 chip requires an incredible amount of memory bandwidth to exploit it's new architecture.
Most hardware review sites are estimating that DDR will perform about the same as RDRAM, but will cost less, and that RDRAM will be only for high end workstations.
RDRAM rocks. RAMBUS, the company, sucks.

But I try not to get too involved in the tech politics, I simply buy the tech that gives me the performance I want.
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 9:36 am
by emenelton
I have a p3 677 on a asus p3c-e with 256 silver samsung ecc rambus memory. It runs like a charm and can really be pushed to the edge and beyond...............
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 10:55 am
by Signal X
Well, I decided to check ASUS P4B which is 845 chipset with 1GB SDRAM and P4 1.7GHz.
I installed my Scope SP using Pulsar 3 software and Cubase VST 5.1 under Win2K
and all seems wrok fine.
What the new DDR memory will give me that I dont have now?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2001 11:46 am
by subhuman
It should be clear from the posts above: a ton more performance! Your P4 isn't getting the memory bandwidth it needs to keep it saturated with instructions. That said, the i845+SDRAM is a solid, stable solution. My advice was <i>if buying now</i> to get the i850 or wait for i845+DDR. If you've already got i845+SDRAM or P3+RDRAM then obviously you're not buying <i>now</i>
And rambus on a P3 is just crazy, it doesn't need that kind of memory bandwidth, it's simply wasted there... but yeah it should work okay anyway.
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2001 5:57 am
by Funktastico
I'd wait for NForce and get an AMD XP. That combo should rock - specwise, so it would be smart to wait until someone tests it first ofcourse (Subhuman)
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