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http://midimux.com
The Midi app is already there, the audio connection will be there next week.
Works over the standard iPad lightning/usb cable.
The developers also made TouchAble(ton life for iPad/phone).

So I can cancel the iConnect audio interface of 300.- euro, which was said to be available this month
Midi/audiomux is only 15 euro...
Only mac so far, but that will change I guess. Don't hope so for iConnectivity tho...

I noticed many musicians are using iPads. I just want to say that there is an alternative now. I just bought the HP Stream 7 for $79 + free shipping. It has the full Windows 8.1 (not Windows RT) so you can run any windows software on it. Basically I wanted it for portable recording since it has USB and I can connect it to my RME babyface. I might try some music software. It is probably possible to use it for a live instrument. I have Reaper installed and it works.

braincell wrote:I noticed many musicians are using iPads. I just want to say that there is an alternative now. I just bought the HP Stream 7 for $79 + free shipping. It has the full Windows 8.1 (not Windows RT) so you can run any windows software on it. Basically I wanted it for portable recording since it has USB and I can connect it to my RME babyface. I might try some music software. It is probably possible to use it for a live instrument. I have Reaper installed and it works.

A lot of reviews report a noisy headphone out. That's a showstopper for me. It would be nice to run Kontakt with some VSTs if I thought I could get away with it on a 1.8 processor with 1GB of RAM. How's the VST's working out with Reaper and is the noise really as bad as they say? I know you are using the RME but I'm looking just to patch it out live from the jack through a mixer/PA maybe with MP3 backing tracks through another channel unless Reaper could handle both on this thing.

don't tell me to run Win 8 on a tablet - that's plain bullsh*t
I have a Dell thing and it's my most hated, unusuable device
you won't believe with what kind of nonsense the GUI will confront you

a Windows application will need explicite programming to make use of a touch surface
any existing 'classical' app will be one pita
for example: call up the on screen keyboard - shrinks the windows to make space - fine
to close the keyboard takes at least 2 hits
and then it won't restore the screen to it's state before *LOL*
you're about to manually resize all windows affected - and that's quite a task - see below

there's a ton of 'default' dialogs, which you can't be confirmed by screen touch - it won't find the hit
the screen keyboards return is your only resort

hit accuracy is fully stupid compared to IOS devices that observe the sourrounding of a virtual hit

cheers, Tom

The HP Stream 7 has excellent touch sensitivity! No problem there even though it is small. This may be why iPad sales have been going down the toilet. I expect they will get out of that business. The RME Babyface has a headphone jack. Stunning combo for live recording. I will let you know how well it goes for live playing. Still need to get a USB hub for that. Would like to get my piano standalone app on there but I am afraid 1 gig is not enough RAM. The micro SD card I bought is extremely fast though.

you obviously missed the point that I was NOT writing about a particular piece of glass, but about the OS
the Dell tablet received it's taps well (as one can visualize by an indicator)

if an application is developed from the ground up with tablet control in mind, it may work
but an legacy stuff is a plain failure
which starts with something as basic as the explorer view of the file system

cheers, Tom

On the negative side for Apple, there is the "walled garden" approach to the app store. I think we will see more apps developed for touch from the ground up in Windows as musicians realize that there is an alternative and that they do not have to be a prisoner to Apple. Portability is an advantage but I never liked that I can not run my favorite software on an iPad. It seems like a toy to me.

Run Scope Sync on your tablet and control Modular!!

I have run ScopeSync using a touch monitor, and it is multi-touch, works like a charm (in windows 7, I expect the same in Win8). It's not built up to where it's easy to just whip up your own interface yet, but for what exists, it's amazing.

Apple won't be getting out of iPad business anytime soon, believe me.

Sales have flattened out because of all the cheap toy tablets that the other companies are muddling up the marketplace with.

iPads are good smart clients for such applications as the mux.

I presume these devs will add Windows capability at some point.

G

http://musicioapp.com

Another new midi/audio router for iPad. 3$...
Midi works nice, audio coming soon. (Haven't measured latency yet though)

MusicIO works very well.

G

good to know - just noticed it in the shop yesterday...
(to be honest I had expected USB data exchange a lot earlier, but never mind)

cheers, Tom

My preliminary tests indicate the HP Stream 7 is not powerful enough to do music (probably too low on RAM) but works great for recording with Reaper (using RME Babyface i/o). Probably will use the battery up in 2 hours with the Babyface plugged in.

yeah - you get what you pay for ...
when my iPad is sleeping I can switch it on after a week with still 80% battery available
it's musical abilities rival Scope and outperform 98% of the VST market

the crappy Dell i3 is empty to the bottom withing 2 days
(but that wasn't even a cheapo...)

cheers, Tom

a forum comment or review sent to me by a friend, don't know the source, sorry, but he usually is well informed by specialist forums, actually growing numbers of FB editions. But the thoughts could be useful, and checked:

@kobamoto Music IO will eventually be midi and audio. Currently Music IO supports iOS 6 or newer, is midi only, and you can only connect one iOS device at a time to your Mac
Midimux supports iOS 5.1.1 on up is midi only but you can connect multiple iOS devices and their Audiomux app which has been submitted to the App Store will do audio. You can connect midi from one iOS device to another (e.g. ThumbJam on iPad 1 running a synth app on an iPad Air 2). They will do a bundle which will include Audiomux such that if you buy Midimux now you won't have to pay any additional money to buy the bundle to get Audiomux.

I've run both apps successfully getting midi to and from iOS and OSX Yosemite with both apps which are universal apps which require an app to be installed on OSX. Midimux has the software for OSX inside the app so you can use iTunes or iFunbox to install in on OSX by transfering the pkg file over and double clicking on it.

I found Midimux to be easier to use as it automagically detects all of your devices and apps plus you can turn connections off/on. Big pluses are iOS to iOS and multiple device to OSX connectivity which Music IO currently doesn't do. /-end of quote.

In that case I would choose for Mux.

I will be getting some iPad stuff here real soon too.
The drummer controls the X32 with an iPad, our Soundman/FOH/Monitor man/Manager walks around the room with an Android and does the levels, fixing slight differences for each song.

He works for drinks and chicks, since this band just sounds real good and doesn't make much money.

After all we are in the Midwest where they have a last call for alcohol and the Sheep are nervous since killer babes are a rarity.