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Issue: Scope 5.1 & Fostex VC8 & No Sound

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:52 pm
by kooljohn
I'm praying someone can help me with this.

I recently upgraded my pc from a pentium 4 2.5ghz/win xp servicepack3/1.5gb ram/80gb hdd to this:

Intel Core -Ivy Bridge- i7-3770K, 4x 3.50GHz, boxed (BX80637I737
1155 ASUS P8Z77-M, Z77 (90-MIBI10-G0EAY0GZ)
NVIDIA MSI N650-2GD5/OC, GeForce GTX 650, 2GB GDDR5, VGA, DVI, H
16384MB DDR3 Dual Channel 1600MHz SAMSUNG (PC3-12800)
Samsung SSD 840 Series 120GB SATA 6Gb/s (MZ-7TD120BW)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2000GB, SATA 6Gb/s (ST2000DM001)
Blu Ray ROM/RW Pioneer BDR-S07XLT SATA
be quiet! System Power 7 600W ATX 2.31 (BN145)
Fractal Design Arc Mini (FD-CA-ARC-MINI-BL)
Antec Kühler H2O 620 Hydro (Sockel Intel/AMD)(0761345-77085
MS Win7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit MULTILANGUAGE 1pk DELL OEM
Multifunktionspanel Akasa InterConnect Pro, USB 3.0 (AK-HC-05BK)
TP-Link TL-WN881ND, 300Mbps (MIMO), PCIe x1

I've installed Cubase 5 and upgraded from Scope 4.0 to 5.1. The Pulsar card I'm using is Pulsar2 6 dsp (PCI)

The pulsar card is fine running sound through it's breakout cable but when I try to route it through my Fostex VC8's (yes I know they're ancient) I get nothing...Zilch...nada. From what I can tell Cubase is setup to run through the extra outputs on the vc8 and so is Scope but still nothing comes through. I've changed the optical cables and investigated as much as I can but no result.

Please people if you have any idea why this is happening then help me.

Appreciation in advance :)

Re: Issue: Scope 5.1 & Fostex VC8 & No Sound

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:33 pm
by garyb
the issue is strictly hardware, it has nothing to do with Cubase, Scope or windows.

you need to have only one digital master clock. by default, the Scope card is master. if you keep the Scope card as masterm the VC-8 must be set to slave. in order for anything to happen, the ADAT inputs of the VC-8 must be connected to the Scope card's ADAT outputs. the VC-8 can be master if it only has ADAT outputs, or if you just want it to be, but then Scope must be set to ADAT slave in the samplerate window. all digital to digital connections work in this fashion.

you will probably never get good performance with that computer and the Scope card. the newest socket 1155 and later motherboards don't have real PCI slots. they don't work correctly. if you only use your card for basic i/o, it will probably be fine.

Re: Issue: Scope 5.1 & Fostex VC8 & No Sound

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:29 am
by kooljohn
Thanks Garyb,

That worked perfectly, very much appreciated.

It's a shame about the PCI slot being problematic in the motherboard and already I'm getting the 'PCI limit' warnings with very little going on :(
I will have to start saving up for an Xcite 1 which looks super tasty and is perfect for what I'm doing but doesn't come cheap.

Anyways, thanks again for the help.

Re: Issue: Scope 5.1 & Fostex VC8 & No Sound

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 1:23 pm
by kooljohn
That PCI message keeps popping up very regular. Almost making it impossible to get in the workflow. I have a very basic and lean setup within Scope 5.1 to run Cubase and running it at 44.1khz while Cubase is on 24 bits and 44.1khz. Is there anyway to prevent that PCI limit message popping up every 2 minutes?

Re: Issue: Scope 5.1 & Fostex VC8 & No Sound

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:27 pm
by garyb
no, socket 1155 motherboards don't work. period.

it's the design. the PCI bus is nonexistant on the later motherboards. instead, a faux PCI bus is tacked onto the PCIe bus and then a third party controller chip is added to control the bus. if you had a legacy nic card or even a soundblaster card, it would work fine, but a high volume, realtime card won't work as you can see.

PCI slots are discontinued by the computer industry for all intents and purposes. this is why the XITEs are PCIe.

Re: Issue: Scope 5.1 & Fostex VC8 & No Sound

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:02 pm
by kooljohn
Thanks for that Gary.

You've been a huge help.

Re: Issue: Scope 5.1 & Fostex VC8 & No Sound

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:53 pm
by garyb
sorry that i couldn't help more.

by the way, socket 1156, 775 and 1366, and all AMD systems of the same age work great. if you want an i7, a socket 1156 system will work great.