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All I could find was this:

ftp://sonic-core.net/manuals/SCOPE/Manual/english/

If not, is there an updated manual in the 5.1 installer?

yes, there is, but nmost of it is the same as the older manual. Scope functions pretty much the same in either version, at least as far as the user is concerned.

Hi Gary b,

Did SC manage to update screen shots or are we still at VST32?

emotive wrote:Hi Gary b,

Did SC manage to update screen shots or are we still at VST32?

Gary is doing support for both US and Europé and Russia also I think he said ,
so you must be friendly to him otherwise he close down the whole site
No more manuals
Bear

there may be some screenshots that old. it shouldn't hinder the usefullness of the info, though.

what's hard to understand is just the miracle of Scope still existing and there being a new version AND the XITE, since there are less than a handfull of people doing the work. also, Scope alone won't really keep S|C in business, so other work must be done by the company and it's all to support the Scope platform. we'll just have to make do as far as some of the extra stuff goes. i think that the product is worth it, at least imho.

that's right, be nice to me. i only want to see everyone getting what they need to make some great music!

garyb wrote:

there may be some screenshots that old. it shouldn't hinder the usefullness of the info, though.

what's hard to understand is just the miracle of Scope still existing and there being a new version AND the XITE, since there are less than a handfull of people doing the work. also, Scope alone won't really keep S|C in business, so other work must be done by the company and it's all to support the Scope platform. we'll just have to make do as far as some of the extra stuff goes. i think that the product is worth it, at least imho.

that's right, be nice to me. i only want to see everyone getting what they need to make some great music!

Yes but what happend to the Xite site.
Also one of our guitar players from Siberia see pic ,
want to know if you can borrow some money to him.
Its so cold up there at christmas time he says .
Bear

most of us would pay for a white Christmas...

hubird wrote:most of us would pay for a white Christmas...

Yes but be nice now he want to give some nice toys ,
to all the children he have up there.
Think more about the children than him,
he says.
You can send your money to me here.
niceboy1@tele2.se
Bear

that's nobel of him.
I hope he will get a lot of positive feedback on his charity action.
For me, to send you money is a bridge too far, tho

hubird wrote:that's nobel of him.
I hope he will get a lot of positive feedback on his charity action.
For me, to send you money is a bridge too far, tho

Who asked you
Its his own children he made.
Be carefull they are kind of tuff defending me here.
Not that Perestrojka only half the way that you represent he says.
Also you lost the subject
Its about the Scope manual here,
but other more nice people are allways welcome to Siberia he says.
We must test the new free mastering EQ here now.
After the bx or maybe also on the feedback Saturation .
Bear

garyb wrote:there may be some screenshots that old. it shouldn't hinder the usefullness of the info, though.

Doesn't matter really, it's quite simply a bad look for the company and makes them appear lazy/can't be bothered or don't care whether people can relate it to the present or not.

emotive wrote:

garyb wrote:there may be some screenshots that old. it shouldn't hinder the usefullness of the info, though.

Doesn't matter really, it's quite simply a bad look for the company and makes them appear lazy/can't be bothered or don't care whether people can relate it to the present or not.

This last pic is very much related to our friend from Detroit thats half Lakota and half White.
Since he was in the Band called the Who before they sold their name to the English band.
The relation with Siberia is very clear from Lakota point of view.
The eskimos as well as the Tribes around North of Norway , Sweden , Siberia , Mongolia and
North of Canada are all one Tribe not too much involved in boarders between countries
Since one of the Band Members became an active Sound Enginere
and later Professor in Soundtechnic working globaly,
The picture is then explained clearly from Lakota point of View.
The Companie has then nothing to be ashamed of suddenly.
Merry Christmas to all of them too and the North Pole..

niceboy wrote:This last pic is very much related to our friend from Detroit thats half Lakota and half White.

To say anyone is "half" this or that is racist, bigoted and appeals to the prejudices of those who take a supremacist point of view.

As to the manual, it is well written but shows a half hearted side of the developers but saying that I did notice well written read me files that mentioned parts of the manual that did not make it to release but of course this was in Creamware days so maybe they were more articulate in those times and have decided to rest on their laurels in the now Sonic Core.

emotive wrote:

niceboy wrote:This last pic is very much related to our friend from Detroit thats half Lakota and half White.

To say anyone is "half" this or that is racist, bigoted and appeals to the prejudices of those who take a supremacist point of view.

As to the manual, it is well written but shows a half hearted side of the developers but saying that I did notice well written read me files that mentioned parts of the manual that did not make it to release but of course this was in Creamware days so maybe they were more articulate in those times and have decided to rest on their laurels in the now Sonic Core.

To say that a farmer in Michigan married in a Lutheran Churh with a Lakota girl,
lived a very happy life , 8 children all half and half is racist what ???
Someone saying things like that is not very smart.
Merry Christmas my friends in Detroit
Bear

niceboy wrote:Someone saying things like that is not very smart.

You might think you're smart but not really, knowing history does not make one intelligent, it merely shows a capacity to remember and link things together; so what you can link a DAW.

By your repeated posts it seems I've hit a nerve, the same nerve that the rusted on S|C defenders; who always say dumb things like "I'm just glad the stuff is still around" or "I'd rather have a working system than presentable documentation".

Sure the manual is well written but it's not what generations after the original users would expect and it probably says something about the nature of the company one time in business, one time not, splitting up, this off-spin going broke etc etc not very professional.

It's the kind of attitude of "why do you need anything more than XP", that is keeping the company just afloat and people like you who bring it down.

Actually I'm new to Sonic Core and decided to give it a go and spend my money with the new software.

Sure I can revert to XP but I don't want to because it's end of life for a start and the price of scope 5 seems good.

Is it not unreasonable to want value for money, in that a quality manual can be produced?

I have a paper manual for Scope 4 and I will read it and if Sonic Core are moving away from developing synths etc that's fine because there is Scope 6, which allows others to step up but if we still want this shabby documentation situation, that is to defend the indefensible then I am not to blame for a poor image going forward.

[quote="emotive"]Actually I'm new to Sonic Core and decided to give it a go and spend my money with the new software.

Sure I can revert to XP but I don't want to because it's end of life for a start and the price of scope 5 seems good.

Is it not unreasonable to want value for money, in that a quality manual can be produced?

I have a paper manual for Scope 4 and I will read it and if Sonic Core are moving away from developing synths etc that's fine because there is Scope 6, which allows others to step up but if we still want this shabby documentation situation, that is to defend the indefensible then I am not to blame for a poor image going forward.[/quote


About the manual in the small Companie Sonic Core,
thats in the middle of a total explosion of new things going on.
So why ask for the impossible to happend.
The problem is that Gary is working overtime here,
and he can explain what to do for you.
Just PM Gary ,but he wants to eat now I am sure.
What Gary ment is that you need to have the right download for W7
They are not moving away from Synths .
We are going to buy a Synth called Solaris now.
Its Scope related , but its on professional level.
So Ferrofish is a Companie thats also involved in this new MADI thing,
with theire small ADAT to MADI converter ,not expensive at all.
Merry Christmas