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pendulum waves

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:32 am
by petal
I saw this a few a months ago and was intrigued:

Pendulum waves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkdfJ9PkRQ

I've always found interference, synergy and emergence fascinating. I guess I'm not alone out there. A few months later I found this one which is directly inspired by the first video:

Simple Harmonic Motion study (remember to watch it in full screen):
http://vimeo.com/28239261

Do any of you guys know of any similar experiments or works of art?

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:40 pm
by ChrisWerner
Thank you for this, I really like the combination of math, visuals and music, all belongs together.

Do you already know Tiction? Give it a try!

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/09/t ... rocessing/

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:36 pm
by Nestor
Absolutely wonderful! the mathematics and the physics behind it are superior! There is so much to pull out of it.

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:18 pm
by petal
Tiction looks very interesting. Unfortunately I can't find any place to download the software. It seems to have been taken down.

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:46 pm
by astroman
Nestor wrote:Absolutely wonderful! the mathematics and the physics behind it are superior! There is so much to pull out of it.
I kindly disagree, the technical background is totally boring.
It just does what it's supposed to do, as the initial 'pulse' is slightly tilted by holding the plank.

The funny part is the tricking of the eye that combines the isolated items into continuous movement.
There was a time when detecting a serpent was a more determining about existence than it's for most of us today :D

cheers, Tom
(referring to the first clip only)

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:50 pm
by ChrisWerner
Tom, books will keep him as the destroyer of the beauty, the perfect world. :D

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:29 pm
by astroman
that's only the very first impression...
isn't a serpent beautiful too ?
and the mind's ability to create from combination ?
by pulling it down, I lifted it to another level... :D

cheers, Tom

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:18 pm
by Nestor
My point is that there is way "much more than meets the eye". You can see what is happening, but you cannot explain it other than by its phisical fhemomenon. I'm actually talking about the hidden behind the obvious, which is much more interesting than what we can see. There are superior mathematics that are implicit and that belong to the way creation works. To describe life and its millions of pheneomenon that there exist is not understanding it.

For instance, science says that: "fire is the result of combustion and then that combustion is the result of fire", but they cannot explain what fire is nor combustion... All we can truly say about this (vicious circle) scientific explanation, is that logical thought is extremely limited, and usually reflects how much we ignore about the universe. Sometimes, the more we explain something, the less it seems we really know.

All I can do, is to try to intuit what is it that is behind what we can logically describe, and I feel that behind this waves there is something really important, well beyond the simple laws of physics.

Of course, I'm an ignorant myself, :) so I don't mean anything in a final way, or want to assert an irreversible meaning to anything, not at all...

But I can say something out of real, proven experience:

I have used my mind to try to sort out many important, heart or abstract things in my life, and every time I have tried, I have failed. In the other hand, I have used this intuition, insight, sixth sense, or whatever it may be called, this kind of super abstract, none-thought approach, and have succeded to do and understand many apparrently impossible life problems and mysteries, particularly when a new direction is to be taken, and you don't have a clue about what you should do and where you should go. I have to trust what I have experienced beyond everything else, it is a matter of instinct that you must follow.

This unexplainable something within myself is crying loud telling me that behind these waves mathematics there is something really mayor, much more important than what we may think, and I deeply belive it :)

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:57 pm
by next to nothing
petal wrote:Tiction looks very interesting. Unfortunately I can't find any place to download the software. It seems to have been taken down.
Had lot of trouble finding it as well, but google gave a correct link in the end. I'll post it here when i'm back from work (if i can find it again:) ).

Anyway, i get stuck notes more often than not when using it with scope synths, do you get this as well Chris?

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:22 am
by next to nothing

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:30 am
by ChrisWerner
Thanks for the link and sorry petal, I missed your post.
I tried tiction on the mac book w/ garage band, but I will try it on win now.
CU

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:35 am
by petal
No worries Chris, Next to Nothing was there to my rescue :) thank you very much for the link!

I've got it up and running now. It's interesting how just a few simple rules can produce pretty interesting "melodies". Unfortunately I get hanging notes when using Creamware synths as well.

Anyways, thank you very much for pointing Tiction out for me!

Re: pendulum waves

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:20 pm
by next to nothing
Liked it very much despite the hanging notes. As a half-assed work-around i merged the seq source with M-K 3, but any device with a "reset" button would do i guess. its more intuitive to just press that button than start/stopping it :)

I remember when googling it they mentioned somewhere having fixed a hanging note issue, apparently they didn't fix all.