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I was hoping there might be a way to control the XITE-1's MicPre's via MIDI in the future.
I am starting to really like the built in MicPre's because even on my sons cheezy Marshall mic the sound and especially the silence is really of a good quality.
I have been recording lately instead of just using the MicPre's live, and they really sound nice.
I can actually hear the difference between the BETA 58's and the Marshall mic instantly.
Thats a good sign of a decent mic pre.
But having access to a mic pres settings from my KS88 during a recording or gig would be sweet.
Is this even possible...?
I know Behringer BCF's and BCR's have great capabilites at a great price, and from what I have read the ADA8000's might have this capability, or they are looking into it.

Ankyu

Well on the XITE theres only PAD and GAIN isn't there ? Not a bad idea, but I spose Ive only ever though of those type of control as set once based on a 'test 1-2-3' into the mic while you screw with project levels and then forget. the ADA8000 doesnt have a MIDI in from what I make out, so no remote there

i found this -
http://www.aphex.com/188.htm

very useful for xited gigs

i kinda don't get it. the input gain doesn't need to be changed once set, and a fader on a mixer can be automated all you might want, so...

I have been using the ins for hardware analog synths and they sound great when I add gain there for dynamics. Much better than using the fader.
MIDI CC attached to a lag processor to control the mic pre would be sick.
Even using CC7 on the SE-1s' or EML-101 for their gain is mushy.
These DI/MicPres' start with a max value of the synths already, and boosting it sounds really large.
Besides, everything is working so what can I bitch about.

If you set the pre to be the max it can go before overload, then the mixer fader level also will have a max value before overload ( for example 3/4 - which is a CC value of 92 ).

*IF* theres a Scope device to map the CC range from 0 - 92 instead of 0 - 127 ( eg divide value by 3/4 ) then you're gonna get the same gain across the controller range you would from manipulating the pre input aren't you ( since its already turned up as high as it can be ) ?

Mathematically correct, but the ears tell me different.
A Trim pot on a hardware mixer sounds different than the fader to my ears also, but I am sure an FoH would probably have an explanation.
This is just for the old useless out dated analog synth hardware that few people use anyways.
I really do like the sound of the DI/MicPres though, regardless if it ever gets CC automations.
Perhaps I can afford a key tech that can memporize the arrangements and boost the swells in the proper spots.........NOT.

saturating the hardware pre certainly sounds different than adding clean gain on a virtual mixer fader....maybe you could emulate that with some overdrive....

I think the problem is the expense of the manufacture - since the trim is (most likely) an actual analog pot rather than a digital circuit on the XITE board itself, they would have to motorize it to give it MIDI control.

Hey.........a new idea.
Motorized knobs for the fattest and laziest amongst us.

I tried using some OD and actually could have used tgstgs's Saw as it is sorely missed.
I use to use it because on any graph you can see the incedible amount of sidebands and rich harmonics.
My B2003 is so weak w/o it that I must use a 2 x 4 Switch that goes clean into the mixer with the Leslie emu and B2003s' Overdrive, and then Y it off into MoJo for the Deep Purple sound w/ the Leslie disconnected. I then have to feed that back into the B2003 input where I can add the Leslie.
This is how Highway Star and other organ sounds from that group used it.
They went out of the B3 into a Marshall head then into the Leslie PreAmp.
Funny how I can get close using virtual stuff but Saws lack of 64bit innards make that plug and Dynomic unusable................

Someday the SDK might solve this issue.
Lord knows there's many guys on the sidelines waiting.

Well conceivably there'd be a market for a small stomp box that contained nothing but a motorized pot, midi in and audio in/out. You wouldn't even need the knob (could be optional on the deluxe version), just a 9V battery compartment. This could give you the analog gain characteristics / sound you're after

I really like Wakeman's use of Organ on later albums like 'Out There' (2003) - not sure if that was a real church organ, Wurlitzer, Hammond or combination but he gives those 70's sounds a great renaissance in a modern context.