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SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:56 pm
by gustav
Hi
I'm running SFP since a longtime with a batchfile : start /belownormal c:\scopeappbinsfp -s
this charges sfp on the right bottom corner of win xp.
then i right click , then show and I had access to scope

but now even if sfp is running I can't get access to the menu.
right click on the little icon does not do anything.

I modified the batch file and it only gets accessible when I delete the -s option.
so sfp starts with the default project and not the startupproject

So I thought that my startup project must be corrupted but now that sfp is accessible i can load it without any problem

Does anybody know whats happening to my system ?
I like to understand when possible ...

Re: SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:16 pm
by Mr Arkadin
i'm wondering why you bother with a batch file for this - this is how my Scope runs normally and i have never used a batch file, it just starts up in the background and i can access with right-click as you describe.

Re: SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:17 pm
by siriusbliss
You don't need to use a batch file.
Just make sure Scope is in your Windows system startup and it should load automatically at bootup.
It should set it up this way during installation.

Greg

Re: SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:54 pm
by at0m
Gustav, that only works when startup project is enabled in Scope. Go to Settings, enable Startup project. Then, if you want to start it manually instead of automatically on boot, you can disable scope startup from msconfig>startup and Scope will start up with a -s option and load in the tray.

If ever Scope can then not be brought up from the tray, it means (in my experience) that Scope asks a question in a pop-up which is also hidden. So open Scope normally, then load startup project while Scope is visible, and you will get the chance of properly replying to the pop-up (like, locate a file that went missing). Then, once hidden, bring up the Startup project again and save it.

Re: SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:16 am
by garyb
hidden on a second monitor no longer connected?

Re: SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:46 am
by spacef
yes, or a change of screen resolution making scope out of the screen (happened to me once)

Re: SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:12 am
by dbmac
Some process might be competing with Scope at startup which is interfering with the Scope initialization. I've seen this before with a mouse app or some usb device (I forget which) running at startup and Scope not starting even though the icon is in the task bar. Even moving the mouse while Scope is starting could cause this.
If you run msconfig and look at the startup tab you might find the culprit. Optionally, you can deactivate the start project in Scope, make the startupproject the default project, and launch Scope manually. Not ideal, but a work around til you find the conflict.

/dave

Re: SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:04 am
by at0m
spacef, garyb: ""but now even if sfp is running I can't get access to the menu. right click on the little icon does not do anything.""

That means that he's got a problem in his Startup Project so it waits "hidden in the tray" for user action to continue loading the Startup Project. If he just opens it from non-tray Scope, he can answer Scope's question, save the Startup Project again so it won't interrupt anymore, and rock on...

Re: SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:38 am
by spacef
ok i see,
may be just a problem of preset or not found device....
i don't use scope startup project, i always launch it manually (because i never know which of scope or sdk i'm gonna use, and my default setups change very often....
may be that's why i didn't get the question....

However, it happened to me in the past that i could right click on scope icon, and nothing appeared on screen, because the project was opening "below" the screen space... changing resolution allowed to see the upper part of the project window and drag it up to put it where it should be, and resaving a project... But in that case the scope icon showed the menu...

Re: SFP running but no access to the menu

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:44 am
by gustav
Tnanks for all this reactions

I don't want to load sfp at boot time - so I think the batch idea is not bad - also I can give the process a lower priority
This is the I way it worked for me the last 2 years.

Perhaps my english is not very clear - but when I say :
So I thought that my startup project must be corrupted but now that sfp is accessible i can load it without any problem
what I mean is :
The startup project loads without any popups - so the startup project is ok - this is not an explication of the problem

I have 2 monitors but I can't see any popup.
And there were no changes in resolution.

as dbmac said I deactivated the start project in Scope, made the startupproject the default project, and changed my batchfile (no more -s option)
this seems to work for me - - - until my xite will come :)