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Sequencer With External Audio Source
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:02 am
by dawman
I am not a big fan of Arrpeg 1 & 2, they are nice but extremly mechanical sounding.
I would like to build a Sequencer in Modular using the external audio from my Analog Synth.
Is this possible or is it a waste of time. I have to consider the audio degradation, and the small amount of latency too, but I just love the incredible amount of controls available in Modular.
Is there a patch somewhere I can check out the color, and controls..?
Re: Sequencer With External Audio Source
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:20 pm
by siriusbliss
Wow, we're in sync. there Jim. Was just farting around with Arpeg today.
It's fine. It's still an arpeggiator.
Wolf's sequencer is OK also.
What I REALLY need is a sequencer/step that simply tracks external chords. I do NOT want a preconceived step sequencer, and I do not want 'static' arpeggiation patterns. I do not need to just turn on preconceived sequences with a MIDI command. I need tracking and following.
Arpeg02 does the arpeggiation OK, with some pseudo randomness and what-all, but it's still 'static'.
I'm looking at building something similar to Omnisphere's step arpeggiator.
In other words - sustain chords along the timeline and have the step arpeggiator take care of the rhythmic component .
Purpose is to setup a real-time backing track under my real-time performance so I can modulate around jazz style, while also soloing.
I know it's possible somehow - probably a combination of Arpeg02 and some other module (maybe Wolf's). Just haven't had time to build it.
Greg
p.s. as already discussed elsewhere, I can already do this with Roland GR-33 and Axon AX-100 guitar synth interfaces.
Re: Sequencer With External Audio Source
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:17 am
by dawman
With Roy's help I think we can get close.
I wish to trigger pre programmed passages using note input and let Modular do it's magic.
I think you should get the old ancient Kurzweil Expressionmate.
It has a long ribbon and you could trigger 3 different arrpegiations, bi directional,etc.
I'll let you know what I come up with.
Re: Sequencer With External Audio Source
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:53 am
by siriusbliss
OK great.
Yeah, should be no more need for anymore hardware
I also have a padKontrol, which serves multiple functions from controller to drum trigger.
Some other nifty programs out there that are great tools that could be emulated in Scope:
Re: Sequencer With External Audio Source
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:17 am
by dawman
I have figured it out but it is a very complex Modular creation.
It requires 7 x Modular patches just to have a monophonic and 4 voice polyphonic accompaniment.
1 x for SE-1 patterns, 1 x for LFOtoMIDI SE-1 control.
4 x for Prowave polyphonic patterns, and 1 x for LFOtoMIDI Prowave control.
The Prowave version would use 4 x monophonics patterns that would be used for 4 seperate intervals of a chordal structure. They could also have staggered, and random rhythms. The staggered rhythms are reminsicient of SpaceF's LBH series of devices.
The 4 seperate instances using Roys Piano roll modules also have glide per note which could all have 4 x different glide amounts which mimics a real analog synth and has some really incredible variations.
This is a giant programming experience for me though. The building of the patches was a chore, the foresight of programming the patterns so that they can be used as chords is a massive chore, but I think this could be a really unique live performance tool.
I also can incorporate Wolfs MIDI Chordizer and 16/32 Step sequencers once I get the Modular concepts dialed in.
Even if I find this too complex to use live it was a great programming experience.
We are quite lucky to have a guy like Roy making new modules, as each new version has improvements on the original CW and also his earlier version as well.
Re: Sequencer With External Audio Source
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:02 am
by siriusbliss
seems like there should be a simpler way to do it.
I have some ideas using Arpeg02 (since it already captures incoming MIDI notes just fine) and some filters.
Next step would be to find some step sequence delay - maybe Wolf's matrix.
Greg
Re: Sequencer With External Audio Source
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:10 pm
by dawman
Also check out Advanced Clock and Classic Filter Delay by Hifiboom.
Wolf and SpaceF have some really advanced delays. Echo35 and Matrix Delay are sick.