Scope Needs The " All In One " Completion
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:25 am
This application has all of the ingredients to be an all in one application. I really long for that.
I would love to unchain myself from these VSTi's and GVI's, Cubase's, and Gigastudio's. That would be so nice.
I have wasted 2 weeks time getting various hosts to work well with the combinations of instruments inside of Scope to play nicely. Emails tag games w/ developers aroiund the globe. Each placing the blame on someone else's application, blah, blah blah.
I was sucessfull in my endeavors to have a recording set up w/ Cubase 4 hosting VSTi's, Gigastudio 4 as a host, Bidule, and Forte. Finally after getting everything to work for each different project I find out that pressing the zone button on my controller to bring in the instruments on that particular channel mutes the other VSTi's and they have to be reloaded. So then using the MIDI CC Filters of the various hosts will work on one VSTi, but not the other.
This is living proof that these apps were meant to be used for recording rather than a giant live project. It seems as though anyone can become a VSTi developer these days. I really dig deeply into these applications, and their sounds while being fine, I find their real world usage totally unacceptable. One work around negates the sucess of another VSTi or GVI installed. I do not have time to make these apps play nicely, but my option is to convert their sample sets to Gigastudio 4 where I can make custom instruments................more wasted time.
I look forward to the day when Scope can help me get rid of this garbage can I have amassed, and have a sampler that will load the requirred sample sets. A step sequencer that will sync w/ VDAT so I can remove these overbloated VST apps once and for all. Yes I know they work, but not as well as many think. For recording one track of this and that, sure, no problem. But I want to access these live from a single project w/o all of this supposed " compatability " which is a contradiction in terms.
We are so close to having XITE-1 and Scope 5.0 as the all in one app it advertised years back. Let's hope this comes true with further developements in the future. As I refuse to waste more valuable time fixing some developers overlooked compatability issues. Duplicate ID's and dll's that share too many similar traits,...I do not care. VST claims to be the almighty, then why are developers all using their own engines these days? Like Aria for Garritan, VSL, etc. This is turning into a giant goat fuck, and I look forward to SC elimainating this nightmare in the future.
Sorry, I am through venting. I do have everything working now, but cannot send MIDI CC's to any VSTi's as I have filtered ALL CC's from enetering these incomplete applications.
Thankfully Scope will accept my mappings and CC's and I can mix everything from the FP106C, and other " COMPLETELY " working products. FUCK VSTI's.
On another happier note,....................they do sound really well in my current project. I will eventually just convert them all to Gigastudio, but would really love to convert them all to STS, as ESC does so eloquently and with ease and great stability.
STS in 64bit....................YAAY-ESSS !!!
I would love to unchain myself from these VSTi's and GVI's, Cubase's, and Gigastudio's. That would be so nice.
I have wasted 2 weeks time getting various hosts to work well with the combinations of instruments inside of Scope to play nicely. Emails tag games w/ developers aroiund the globe. Each placing the blame on someone else's application, blah, blah blah.
I was sucessfull in my endeavors to have a recording set up w/ Cubase 4 hosting VSTi's, Gigastudio 4 as a host, Bidule, and Forte. Finally after getting everything to work for each different project I find out that pressing the zone button on my controller to bring in the instruments on that particular channel mutes the other VSTi's and they have to be reloaded. So then using the MIDI CC Filters of the various hosts will work on one VSTi, but not the other.

I look forward to the day when Scope can help me get rid of this garbage can I have amassed, and have a sampler that will load the requirred sample sets. A step sequencer that will sync w/ VDAT so I can remove these overbloated VST apps once and for all. Yes I know they work, but not as well as many think. For recording one track of this and that, sure, no problem. But I want to access these live from a single project w/o all of this supposed " compatability " which is a contradiction in terms.
We are so close to having XITE-1 and Scope 5.0 as the all in one app it advertised years back. Let's hope this comes true with further developements in the future. As I refuse to waste more valuable time fixing some developers overlooked compatability issues. Duplicate ID's and dll's that share too many similar traits,...I do not care. VST claims to be the almighty, then why are developers all using their own engines these days? Like Aria for Garritan, VSL, etc. This is turning into a giant goat fuck, and I look forward to SC elimainating this nightmare in the future.
Sorry, I am through venting. I do have everything working now, but cannot send MIDI CC's to any VSTi's as I have filtered ALL CC's from enetering these incomplete applications.
Thankfully Scope will accept my mappings and CC's and I can mix everything from the FP106C, and other " COMPLETELY " working products. FUCK VSTI's.
On another happier note,....................they do sound really well in my current project. I will eventually just convert them all to Gigastudio, but would really love to convert them all to STS, as ESC does so eloquently and with ease and great stability.
STS in 64bit....................YAAY-ESSS !!!
