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STDM Connections fail

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:41 am
by luigicampala
Lately i have a problem which is occuring more often. My 2 Pulsar 2 are connected via STDM Cables and when i switch on the machine it tells stuff like `No STDM connections found`or similar. I open the case and finger around at the cables, set the samplerate from master to slave and then back to master and then it works again. Needless to say that i don´t want to use my computer for live mixing in this state.
What i did so far is:
-Cleaned the contacts
-Bought new cables
-Tried to affix the cables with different kind of stuff (rubberbands and more)

Nothing seemed to help.
Could it be a hardware problem - card broken or something?
Any advice our experiences is welcome

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:22 pm
by garyb
what's in your start project?

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:08 pm
by luigicampala
to stardust:
The cards are connected with two stdm cables at both slots. i have tried several cables.

to garyb:
nothing special: wave source, asio source and dest, micromixer, pulsar2 (1) analog in and out, sequencer source and dest, Pulsar 2 (1) midi in and out.
Pulsar 2 (1) is the host card in the upper pci slot.

i have to say, it does not appear every time it put the machine on, it works for 2 or 3 days once i have opened the case and fingered around at the stdm connectors but it comes back. and normally it does not happen while i have the machine running.

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:18 pm
by garyb
i have seen such messages. they're only truly worrisome if the thing stops working. :P
if you really want to be thourough, remove the cards, one at a time and remove the i/o plates and then replace(being careful not to break the nylon screws). if you have a contact cleaner, you can use it on the connectors. this should fix it...

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:51 pm
by luigicampala
thanks gary
just to make sure: what do you mean with io plates? the part of the card where the adat aund the cable connections are?

when thw stdm connections fail the cards won´t run as they don´t have any digital-sync - at least the samplerate window remains blank

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:41 am
by garyb
yes, i mean the i/o daughter card. the part with the whip.

yes, i'm not surprised there's no sound when you get that message. restarting the computer, or at least the app should help.

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:13 am
by luigicampala
thanks for the replies
unfortunately restarting does not help-
what helps is fingering around at the connectors/cables and then switching from master to slave and back at the samplerate settings. so it looks like the cables are not properly seated and they lose contact once a while. or there is some crooked contact within the card, maybe at the io-plate and the procedure mentioned above does fix it temporarely :-?
shall i give the io-plate issue a try? or is it unlikely?

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:24 am
by dbmac
I recommend this product:

http://www.posthorn.com/Stab_2.html

I cured my "stdm connection" problems.

/dave

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:25 am
by Lima
Check out the temperature also. Check if the boards are well winded too.
:-)

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:02 am
by luigicampala
the connector detergent-lubricant seems very promising, thanks dbmac for the hint!
how did you apply it? each contact seperately? or just spray it inti the cableends?
to lima:
i was thinking about temperature too, but it appears at the start of the machine and i have and additional 12´case fan and enough space between the GPU and the cards as well as between the cards themselves.

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:25 am
by garyb
the stabilant is a good product and may help. Deoxit D5 is excellent as well.

try the i/o plate. it can't hurt if you are careful.

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:55 am
by dbmac
luigicampala wrote:the connector detergent-lubricant seems very promising, thanks dbmac for the hint!
how did you apply it? each contact seperately? or just spray it inti the cableends?
The stuff comes with a brush. I just applied it to the contacts & reinserted the cables.

/dave

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:07 am
by luigicampala
ok guys.
did all you said: cleaned the io-plates, applied the stabilant... let´s see what happens.
no news is good news then :wink:

Re: STDM Connections fail

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:16 am
by luigicampala
EPILOGUE

Everything works fine after i cleaned the i/o-plate and applied the stabilant22.
I don´t know what it was, either the plates or the stabilant, but it seems to be solved.
Once again: Thank you guys :)