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stm mixer aux..

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:41 am
by the19thbear
Hi.. i have analog delay. It doesnt completely self oscillate but i want it to :)
here is what i do:
i send a mic signal from channel 1 on the stm mixer, via the aux1 to the delay.
I take the "delay out" signal and put it into channel 2.
i then send, on channel 2 some of the sound back to the delay via aux1.
Doing this causes nasty phase stuff.
i suspect it is the (small) latency from the scope card that is causing this?
i tried fiddeling with the latency compensation numbers on the mixer but it doesnt help!
this can be done on a "reallife" console.. i have done this many times.. but not in scope.


any suggestions?
thanks alot

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:15 am
by Fluxpod
Try around with latency compensation.A digital feedback wont be pretty..i can asure you........I tried this once with a hd system....lets just say i had to pay for the poor ns10 that poped the woofer out in the process....... :roll:

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:32 am
by the19thbear
thanks!
i did that already... i can do that directly from the stm mixer... the frequenzy changes--- but thats all.. its still there.

???

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:35 am
by Fluxpod
the19thbear wrote:thanks!
i did that already... i can do that directly from the stm mixer... the frequenzy changes--- but thats all.. its still there.

???
It did work for me on pthd...i actually never tried it on scope..and i wont even try.I guess its a really really small delay,but honestly a digital fb is ...horrible.It wont give you that controllable fb you know from analog.

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:37 am
by Shroomz~>
Why not just use an analogue mixer to screw around with your analogue FX?

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:48 am
by the19thbear
dont have one :D
but some day could buy a cheap behringer mixer...
but hey.... why spend money if it could be done in scope!!... oh well :)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:55 am
by Shroomz~>
It shouldn't be all about 'doing it in Scope'. It should be about achieving what you want in the best possible way.

btw, I wouldn't rely on a behringer analogue desk personally. I'd rather spend a couple of quid more on a small used Sprit, Allen & Heath or Mackie desk (or similar) for the needs you describe.

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:06 pm
by the19thbear
i agree, but for me it's all about doing it the cheapest way. got married 1½ years ago and starting to study soundengineering in a coupe of months= no cash:)

but i agree completely! but for now.. behringer crap! :)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:13 pm
by Fluxpod
You could search for some small 6 in 2 revox or studer desks..you may find one for a bargain.Or ramsa..we use a ramsa 16 in 2 in our studio and its an awsome desk designed by dave peck..the daddy of the distressor,we bought it from a church in 1999 for 800 dm and they only used the stereo ch.If you look for a while i bet you find a good analog desk. :)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:34 pm
by Shroomz~>
the19thbear wrote:but i agree completely! but for now.. behringer crap! :)
:x

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:37 pm
by Fluxpod
Oh interresting where do you study?I did this myself:)

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:45 pm
by the19thbear
danish music acadamy/school: rytmisk musikkonservatoriet