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SOLARIS 5.0.6
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:08 pm
by dawman
Just like there is a wall of anti-aircraft fire that defenders worship, and the infamous Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, there exists a wall for synthesizer lovers also...............
THIS IS KNOWN AS THE WALL OF FAT.
Sorry Guys, After a couple of good suggestions I re mixed w/ PsyQ to replace the frequencies lost during conversion, and Hubirds suggestion added further enhancements.
3/24/08-------I also agree w/ Zangsta that the PsyQ was destructivrly used.
Now the final compressed, comprimise.
The learning process is suppose to be like this.... thanks.
And Miles to go before I sleep..............Charles Bronson,,,,,Telefon.
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:18 pm
by next to nothing
too bad us mere mortals must wait until may

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:24 pm
by dawman
I know how you feel, I heard all about the hardware's abilities, and the new filters like the Oberheim / Moog from guys who went to MESSE.
The levels of FAT can only be increased.
Contact John if you already are a Solaris owner.
As we say in Vegas....can't win if you don't go.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:30 pm
by next to nothing
i'll wait, and have a heavenly weekend when its released at the same time as the other little thing we are all waiting for

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:34 pm
by zangsta
Ok, that´s an impressive intro there, Jimmy, when will we get to hear the rest of the song??
I like the drum-sound, they sound great in the mix.
What did you use there..??
Hey, you´re getting there! !.
Actually, this "intro" and the sound got me thinking about the great animated music they make and sell at
www.animusic.com.
Check it out, great videos there. and fascinating stuff to watch on a big screen with good audio
Keep up the good work, Jimmy!
Jörgen
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:45 pm
by dawman
Thanks Jorgy,
I tried to use loops in Cubase 4 and just can't write music over someone else's drums. Especially the ones where the guy does a tom roll and his high hat is still playing.
I used Gigastudio and mixed it's embedded impulse recordings of Taj Mahal, and mixed it with the PCM91. It's Larry Seyers Acoustic Drum Library.
I thought maybe it would be nice to record 2 live mono synth parts over a drum track. I did this live w/ a DJ who used Ableton and Kyma when I first got Scope.
But I had to use my Oberheims to pull that off.
I won't be needing to carry those around anymore.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:05 pm
by zangsta
Yea, so then it´s better to just play with a click-track set to right tempo
and ad the drums afterwards.
Click-tracks are hard, until you find the right sound , and
sometimes putting it of-beat helps.
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:06 pm
by hubird
omg, I'm glad there's
minimal techno
but you have drums together with your music hehe
you put reverb on the whole loop, isn't it?
it would be better to have at least the kicks apart.
You could cut them out with the scissor and put them on a track below.
just make sure they don't move in time when you move them (get a kick on the start of a bar, selects all kicks, and move them all at once with snap activated and quantize on bar).
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:35 pm
by dawman
What I did was record a MIDI track in Cubase 4.
That triggered the sounds in Gigastudio that went to the FP106B from SpaceF.
I set the IR's on each drum the way I liked, then added the PCM91 via an AUX.
The drums sound fine w/o the PCM91, I added that as I wanted the sound of a large Arena, since that's what I was striving for.
I enjoy pretending I am playing in a large venue, since I miss them so much.
Hubird, you have been very helpful in making this. I shall do some Techno eventually, but I am still in the process of re creating my virtual analog studies. Once they have yeilded the proper results I shall continue with other styles.
I really like recording this way, but as you all know I have a long way to go.
With the continued help I am getting, and trail by error experimentation, I should be ready when XITE-1 and Solaris are released.
BTW, This was suppose to be a synth demo.

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:02 pm
by hubird
succesfully

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:19 pm
by dawman
I was actually sad being away from my family and all alone this Easter.
You guys have made my day,......thank you.
Brotha' Man Stardust, you are going to freak out when you hear what's happened to the polyphonic side of Solaris.
Boris told me that John has even added Oberheim style Filters, hopefully notch, and 6-poles. But the poly glide pads I am making on this are incredible. Every sound of the old big poly synths is attainable, and in some cases more advanced modulations are giving this synth a sound of yesterday and today all in one. Very impressive.
Solaris in hardware is a dream come true.
I never owned a single synth that could do monophonic leads and polyphonic pads except the Matrix 12. I must admit that Solaris 5.0 can replace a Matrix 12.
I know. 2 years ago I laughed at all of you guys like you couldn't possibly get close to an analog sound using CW and Bowen synths.
Well JBowen has proved me wrong as this synth demonstrated to me today.
I could never use this live with these " Old Cards ". But in hardware, this synth has no equal.
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:01 pm
by hifiboom
very nice....
you replicated some "sawyer" elements in this one.
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:28 pm
by BingoTheClowno
Nice drum programming.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:56 am
by dawman
I am such a thief.
That was exactly what I was thinking of, only Getty Lee had Taurus Bass Pedals w/ the OB-Xa. I can only imagine what the hardware w/ Oberheim filters will do.
Rush will be here May 10th @ the House Of Blues, maybe John can send me a brochure from SC and Messe.
Pink Floyd's concert was my first wall of FAT, followed by Emerson, Rush came in the mid '80's.
I am convinced that Solaris and XITE-1 through 4 x Barbetta's, a Rotary cabinet and Sub in 5.1 might just be such a wall.
Thanks Bingo. I had to get it right this time, or suffer the slings and srrows of outrageous Brotha's.
I used your category suggestion. It helps me separate my stuff from the other hundred mp3's that are on my PC.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:32 am
by dawman
BTW,
I just started adding the V-LFO Options and I am forced to post a demo using the awesome polyphonic attributes and this.
This is the best synth for Oberheim style strikes like we heard in the '80's w/ those big FAT BASTARD Poly synths.
This Dog Can Hunt !
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:37 am
by BingoTheClowno
scope4live wrote:
I used your category suggestion. It helps me separate my stuff from the other hundred mp3's that are on my PC.
Thanks. You are one of the few that did.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:41 am
by FrancisHarmany
This synth is sounding great well done

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:11 am
by dawman
Where is Brotha' Man Hififboom,........the world wants to know.
BTW, I recieved a pm w/ a suggestion, and also took Hubirds advice and took off the 91 Arena verb, just using the Gigapulse Taj Mahal impulses.
Several ears are better than one in this case.

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:03 am
by zangsta
Hey Jimmy,
I was just listening to both versions, and to me, the first version is the best.
The second has too much treble and lost too much bottom.
Much of the power of the drums went down the drain....also from the synths.
The ideal is probably somewhere inbetween the two,
but closer to the first than the second, unless my system is misleading me terribly.
Cheers
Jörgen
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:34 am
by dawman
After a nice nap, I tend to agree.
Funny how your ears work better after walkin' away for a while.
I decided to use a compressor for the very first time in the virtual world. I remembered using the ancient hardware DBX of yore and must say, I can actually hear the results of the virtual one better.
Hardware compressors seem to require more back and forth tweaks to get it right, this one sounds and works quite well, and very fast.
I bring you the final tour, last mix,.....ladies and gentlemen the DAS 2A St.
Ankyu.