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Sorry To Be A Pain,

I have finally made all of the MIDI recordings of my Drumtracks including the Ritardando.

They are no more parts, but I would like to copy certain areas to other parts of the track and get this tune finished.

Can I copy markers and place them where I need, or is there a better way to do this.

I have wisely saved everything so I can experiment w/o worries of hours of recording wasted.

This is so different from hardware sequencers. The manual is difficult for me as it has copy audio, copy this, and that, but I can't seem to locate the " Copy MIDI track bar # 017 thru 046.

Thanks For Your Time.

Did you add a new marker track Jimmy?

Really useful.

wait...
Activate the quantize symbol in the tool bar, depending on your Cubase version.
Set the quantize window to 'bar', for your convenience.
Press the alt or controll key (different on mac), and click/hold the part you want to copy (whatch the changed pointer symbol).
Drag the part to the position you want it to.
You can also go to the menu copy part, and choose to get ghost copies and the number of them to be applied, these ghost copies will change according to changes in the original one.

you can also activate a part, choose controll-C, and paste it at the active track at precisely the song position (vertical line).

You can use the cut symbol to use small parts of a part to use every now and then, like a transition bar at the end of a part.
Take care to adjust the quantize value according to the cut resolution length.

if that's what you are asking for

You Guys Are Alright For White Dudes !!

Thanks a bunch.

I was hoping this would be as easy as saying " copy marker 4 to marker 5 " but Hubird's explanation seems sound.

I have too many years on hardware, and this new way is much more effiecient as far as workflow goes.


I will check out the marker track after I try the copy paste function Hubird describes, simple enough me thinks.

De Mens Hubird van de Broer van dank.

And Thanks Brotha' Man Music Manic.

Hubird,

Got a pic of the quantize symbol?

I just checked everything that was showing and none of the items on display in the toolbar say quantize.

what Cubase version are you on?
I thought old VST 5, but according to recent posts you're using (even) SX v.4?

In Cubase VST5 (snap, bar) and in SX v3 (see blue >I< and window 'bar' ) it looks like:

I have 4.1.

It looks like SX kind of.

BTW I really appreciate your help,

check the song title bar...(there could be some differences in style between pc and mac, the symbols will be the same tho).

O.K. Brosky.

it's simple, you will have to activate 'snap-to-value', ánd you have to define at what snap resolution you wanne work, be it one bar, one beat, 3/36e, or 'use quantize' in combination with note or free value.

if you have parts of which first note starts on an off beat ( >1), then quantize the start of the part one a bar position.
(drag the start corner of the part to the left while having the quantize value at 'bar' with snap activated.
This way copying is much easier.

I got snap stuff showing, let me see what it provides.

You'd think you could just highlight the area and copy paste?

na-a, dunno on Windows
just do it, copy/paste is the most universal thing working on all platforms in any program, even Cubase
That is, after M$ copied the copy/paste, drag&drop and mouse feature from Apple in 1995

I will cease trying after this.

I will get back to it when I am less angered.

Typical Overbloated crap.

As a last resort I will just record the whole fuckin' thing.

It's damn near done anyway.



You're a good man, thanks.

start it over tomorrow after some sleep.
you must be close as shit already

tip:
you can select all the initial parts you have, all together.
In SX, go to the main menu 'EDIT/repeat, and see what it shows.
If you then go back to the arrangement, you can use the pointer's X symbol to mute the parts you want for your arrangement.
That's just a start...

I found an edit copy / paste area but it's for OMF, whatever the fuck that is.

It appears they are poking fun at me as I translate that as " Old Mother Fucker ".

I'd prefer Old FAT BASTARD.

Fuck it, I am going to just record the rest in real time like I already have and be through with it.

It's a very complex piece to play live, and hard as hell on a keyboard too. But the hardest parts are done. Before most live drummers set up their snare cracks, they often do a buzz roll before the kick ( set up ) to show off their chops. It actually quantized and came out nice.

The tune has inserted half measures and cruises along at 200 BPM in 6/4 and 3/4.

The synths start off in a typical fusion style, powerful and fast, and then the whole arrangement morphs to traditional fast walking bass, and acoustic jazz ensemble. It goes back and forth.

I'm sure nobody will raise a flag over it, but when I wanted to learn this app, I decided not to do the basic 4/4 time signature, but something a trifle different.

Since I can only post original material, I will honor that agreement.

I am confident noone will steal it and use it, if they do anything w/ it, they can pay me later.



Thanks For Your Patience And Help,


JV

scope4live wrote:I found an edit copy / paste area but it's for OMF, whatever the fuck that is.

I don't get it, to copy a part and paste it at the song pointer's position, just copy the part and paste it at the song pointer position, with snap activated...

yes, it's easy. highlight the clip(object to be copied) choose copy. place cursor where you want to paste(make sure the right track is highlighted), and paste. to be sure that the clip is aligned to a beat or bar, make sure that the snap is activated to the proper resolution(bar, beat, 1/8ths, 16ths, whatever) when pasting(and of course while trimming the original clip). you can also select multiple clips by holding shift or cntrl(two slightly different results...) while selecting. right click will also select tools like the arrow/selector and the scissors.

Jimmy
Another way of doing it (in 32/5.1) is to use functions repeat using a part that you have highlighted. You can repeat the loop or part as many times as you wish.
Okay I know that you want to copy to s specified area, but when you are developing a track you may decide to add or remove a few bars.
So, using this method you can "flood" the track with, say 64 copies of your 4 bar loop.
Next, drag your cursor over all of the new parts and then mute them.
As you play back/develop your track you can then un-mute parts as you wish until you finally have what you want.
Then simply delete the ones that remain muted.

Another way to copy a loop is to click on it and then hold the alt key down and drag to the right. This will take a copy along with it and you cna then drop it where you wish.
Not got my daw switched on at the moment but I'm sure It's ALT.

Hope that helps

Oh, I notice Huub has done the Alt & drag bit earlier.
Bear in mind you can click on several parts, on different tracks, using shift to highlight them all, and then hold alt and drag a complete "verse" of all instruments and all parts.

Going on from what Huub said about ghost parts.
These were originally in Cubase to save CPU memory if I remember correctly.
They can be useful but if you change the orig part you are asked if you want to convert all ghosts to the newly changed version. Be careful of this because, as an example, if you create a drum part, say hi-hats and make loads of ghost copies, you will sound like a machine. If you decide to add vaiety, drop a note, move a note or 2 off-beat, it will change them all and you'll still sound like a machine!

Copy / Paste, Done w/ it already.

What a Giant Goat Fuck. I saw this first thing but said to myself, surely this would be the way to go, but no mention of it under MIDI, Score Editor, Drum Editor.

As usual the Brotha's of the Z dialed it in for me.

Now,............the world.

scope4live wrote:no mention of it under MIDI, Score Editor, Drum Editor.

that's because copy/paste parts is not a editor function but an arrangement function.

btw, if you open the Midi editor of a part you can use the copy/paste trick also with notes...or even controller information.