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Is this what you are talking about Gary - The Illuminati?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:59 am
by petal
http://joox.net/cat/44/id/1155035

Scary stuff, but pretty fucking far out there...

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:08 am
by eliam
This kind of video is probably part of the nwo's agenda, to freak people out and try to have us taking them seriously! Be very careful what you give power to, for they may have been planning mankind's destruction for centuries, but let me tell you one thing: mankind's liberation, freedom and happiness has been planned for WAY longer than any destructive plan!!

I'm not saying that we should not have a hard look at the blunt facts about destructive individuals and their intent, but the trap is to become hypnotized by their so-called evil plans and loose our peace over their silly nonsense. Now THAT would be fulfilling their sinister agenda!

One fact not to forget: if these godless clowns could have had their way as they pleased, mankind wouldn't be breathing at this hour. Their plan for global slavery an slaughter has been and IS being offset by mightier Powers than what they can cope with, so now they play their bluff and try to instill fear into people so they can have a grip on them. Please, do not fall in their trap and know that these stupid, heartless plans cannot succeed, because no matter what the appearances might be, there is still Light in the hearts of men -and women, and if you look around you you will realize how deep is the awakening that people are experiencing at this hour, and how great is our opportunity to bring Love and Light wherever we walk!

Being at peace and in the consciousness of the Divine Sparkle in ourselves is the element which counteracts evil plans, because people are no longer under their control when they stop to fear and realize their Eternal Christic Inheritance; when we realize that Love has way more power that all the evil intent put together!

BE at peace

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:32 am
by petal
The fist link points to part 1 and 2 of 4

Here's part 4 of 4 if anybody is interested:

http://joox.net/cat/44/id/1241059

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:12 am
by Immanuel
Eliam - thank you! :)

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:28 am
by eliam
:)

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:10 pm
by BingoTheClowno
eliam wrote:

One fact not to forget: if these godless clowns could have had their way as they pleased, mankind wouldn't be breathing at this hour.
I feel a little provocation there...Do you think I want to enslave you?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:36 pm
by Mr Arkadin
All us godless people want to enslave everyone, get with the programme Bingo, we have a world to conquer.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:40 pm
by eliam
Bingo- are you serious? I wasn't refering to you at all, I don't think you are a member of those cannibalist secret societies who plot for world slavery! :wink:

They are the godless clowns I'm refering to, i don't consider people with a desire to do good and cultivate constructive values as atheists, even if some of them consider themselves so... I call them wannabe atheists... :P

I'm kidding a little here, I respect the freedom of ideologies!

E

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:03 pm
by garyb
both the Rockefellors and the UN have declared China to be the model government.... :lol:

i didn't watch this movie yet, but from a quick glance yeah, at least some of this is what's going on.

eliam, i agree with you, we can't take these clowns too seriously or allow ourelves to give them more power that way, but we can't ignore them either. the bigger power they are afraid of is us.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:28 pm
by eliam
i agree, they are beginning to realize that their diabolical agenda is not going as planned, that's why they try to create as much turmoil as they can before sinking into annihilation. Did you ever read about George Washington's vision about the future of America? Thank God we've avoided the worst that was hanging over our heads!

The way i see it, we are being forewarned about possible perils so we can avoid them, not because they are inevitable. Too bad most of the people talk more about the problems than their solution, which can have the oppisite effect, that is the evil stuff is energized by people's fear and the attention goes to obscurity rather than the Light which is the Ultimate Solver of all human mistakes and problems. This we don't hear it talked about as much as bad stuff, and most don't realize how dangerous it is to let the mind and feelings become tied to anything undesirable. I'm not saying we should completely ignore it, but just not let the mind go back there time and again. The mind must rather be turned to the Light within time and again, so we remember our Divine Self instead of human filth.

it sounds simple and it is, but the application requires a strong determination! Otherwise we just stay enmeshed in all the trivial, deceitful and plain destructive human element that tortured us for God knows how many lives... That's coming to an end my friends, and this is cause for great rejoicing!

All the best!

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:10 pm
by BingoTheClowno
eliam wrote:..... so we remember our Divine Self instead of human filth.
What human filth?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:18 pm
by eliam
hmm? did you check the first post of the thread? click on the link, I think it's self-explanatory...

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:14 pm
by BingoTheClowno
Sorry, I don't buy into that Illuminati and all the secret societies crap.
This is simply shifting the responsibility on fictitious characters.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:26 pm
by eliam
I respect that. By filth i actually meant anything that creates unhappiness, outside or inside human beings. My point being that by contemplating whatever makes us unhappy we give power to that thing instead of freeing ourselves from it.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:36 pm
by BingoTheClowno
That is a too general definition. Let's say my shoes are too tight and they create me unhappiness outside. Would you call my shoes filth?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:59 pm
by garyb
so you don't believe that the house of orange owns the property that the hague is on? you don't believe the cfr exists? you don't believe that those subdivisions were created with automobiles in mind? you don't believe David Rockefellor when he says in his autobiography(page 450 i believe) that he's part of a secret cabal to institute world government in the model of china, whose revolution his family funded?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:17 pm
by eliam
Bingo, I don't know how I would call them but if you continue wearing them you certainly won't be happy. Anyway, knowing some of your points of view I don't really believe you're interested in a open conversation, I think you just want to prove wrong whatever challenges your own conceptions of things, but I may be mistaken... The proof of the existence of God and of the truths to which I refer will come from your own experiences, nothing else. I'm not in the business of convincing anyone of anything, I simply kindly share some hard-won insights with my brothers here.

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:29 pm
by siriusbliss
garyb wrote:both the Rockefellors and the UN have declared China to be the model government.... :lol:

i didn't watch this movie yet, but from a quick glance yeah, at least some of this is what's going on.

eliam, i agree with you, we can't take these clowns too seriously or allow ourelves to give them more power that way, but we can't ignore them either. the bigger power they are afraid of is us.
That's the whole point. Don't give power to the powerless cowards who think they have power.
Killing us all off still leaves them all fighting amongst themselves anyways. :o

Greg

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:42 pm
by garyb
:lol:

really though, i think this whole illuminati thing is a little too hollywood for my tastes. the real thing is much more malevolent and real, like a baseball bat to the head or a severed limb or cancer. the real sick thing about it, is that it requires us to accept it for it to have power at all, and so you see people defending points of veiw based on realities that are manufactured at best denying the beast's teeth at their breast and it's putrid breath in their nose, or they see it and think if they deify it, it will ally itself, but this thing is an enemy and a predator and will not ally itself with prey, except for in the way that a human allies with the sheep that it preys on..... :lol: sorry for laughing! no wonder no one can take such a thing seriously! hollywood really did a number on us with all those bad, bad movies.

wasn't it Lao Tzu who said that "he will rule who will do the things that the others couldn't even consider."? or something like that.....

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:33 pm
by siriusbliss
a few similar...

“To lead people, walk beside them... As for the best leaders, the people do not notice their existence. The next best, the people honor and praise. The next, the people fear; and the next, the people hate... When the best leader's work is done the people say, 'We did it ourselves!'”

"A leader is best when people barely know he exists, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say: we did it ourselves. "

"If the Great Way perishes there will morality and duty. When cleverness and knowledge arise great lies will flourish. When relatives fall out with one another there will be filial duty and love. When states are in confusion there will be faithful servants. "

"When a nation is filled with strife, then do patriots flourish."

Greg