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okay, so it's been a while since reaper started out as the next underdog sequencer. Seems like it's matured quite a bit, not to mention it's known for good compatibility with linux's virtual windows layer. It actually seems more lean and fit compared to other old timers. Does anyone regularly work with Reaper? (as in, crank stuff out with deadlines) I'm sure it's fine for regular use, but I'm wondering about its stability in a strenuous situation.

Any usability issues? I would ask on their user forum, but I think I hold you guy's opinions on higher regard.

well, I don't really count in this context, as my deadlines are just 'personal' by nature...
but I'm a damn lazy guy when it comes to application use (not sell 'em...) and my patience is extremely short

I found arranging stuff in Reaper very convenient and reasonably quick, usually operating on parts from VDAT recordings - no big projects, tho.
Regarding efficiency S.A.W. Studio probably is ahead once you got familiar with the edit shortcuts and options, but then this would be (imho) the only competitor - and that thing is way off in $$$.
As long as I'm still undecided (no midi processing here) I stick with Triple - it's mp3 renderer seems a very good one, but that might as well be just my imagination.

cheers, Tom

I just finished a recording using VDAT a couple of days ago, and used Goldwave, and LAME 3.97 as my wav to mp3. It is in the music thread.

I tried C4 / Reaper and was just frustrated as hell being an old hardware sequencer guy.

But I just figured out ( Thnx GaryB ) how to load my sample players and record.

I actually was making something easy very hard.

Reaper is just a meat and potatoes app, perfect for guys who can play keyboards and don't need everything quantized.

I am anxious to use mics and mic pres w/ vocals, rotary cabinets, etc.

Hi,

In my case, Reaper dosn't work. It crackle with 64 samples buffers at 48KHz.
It can become a real contender ... but not yet IMO. Being geared toward mix engineers, it still lack functionnalities at Midi and also need better mix automation. Anyway I bought a non commercial licence ... as an incentive for Justin!

Let say that, if you have no realtime requirements and simple automation it can do the trick.

SAW .... Very expensive and mono core! Not tested.

I still prefer Cubase SX even if like other host it fail at:
reliability (I should not have to check if there is not glitches when I render, it must have been signaled!).
perenity: a project created 7 years ago must be fully retrieved whichever version of a product I use.

cheers

I am frustrated once again.

I spent hours recording my rotary cabinet and taking the simulated lower baffle output of the Pro 3t back into my Scope project.

I had a track of B4000 using the Heil PR40 and Audient Mico sounding very close to a real B3 / Leslie, then put the ARP String Ensemble through it w/ a touch of the SSB Modulator, another track of MTron's Melotron mixed the SI Melotron library. The SE-1X was doing the lead lickin' and everything was incredibe sounding. 9 Hours of work !!

Needless to say when I went to save it to a stereo file I lost everything.!

The second recording was much easier since I already had my levels and project saved properly, so another 30 minutes re recording it,.......same thing.

I am going to wake up and go back to Cubase 4.

You might be able to teach old dogs new tricks, but damn........I really miss my Otari at times like this.

Moral of the story is, record everything into VDAT first.

1) It sounds much better
2) It doesn't destroy your file when transferring it.
3) It is so easy

VDAT's downfall is that it is very difficult to guess the time of tape correctly, that's all.

I am sure that all the bashing I do to these sequencer apps is unjustified.

I am just frustrated at my lack of knowledge and shall continue pressing on.

My original synth fusion composition will be posted Sunday no matter what.

If I have to stay up drinking 5 pots of coffee, so be it.

I plan on learning and using the 3 sequencer apps I have, and eventually learning and buying SAW Studio. It has 32bit integer like VDAT, but most of the showrooms here in Las Vegas are using it as it is a locally made, and supported app.

I can only make myself more valuable by learning these.

Even if it is a snails pace.

just take care to see the difference between 'delete file from audio pool' (or similar) and 'from disk'.
Once an audio file is recorded, it's on your harddisk, even when you delete your sequencer file by accident.
When a file is deleted, you can recover it with recovering programs, if you didn't overwrite it by newer recordings (deleting just affects the identity part of the file).

Arghh ... That's the kind of frustrating situation I have not faced since my PII 333 days!!

Mind you if it was Keith Moon you was recording .....

What did you do to crash your system !!!

O.K.

Here's the deal.......................I am an idiot, plain and simple.

I cannot sugar coat the issue at hand.

It was the same for me years ago when Yamaha introduced the QX-1.

I would record tracks in real time and not use patterns. It is a different approach to patterns, etc.

The benefits are that by the time the whole project is complete you know every single nuance, note, and tempo ritard recorded.

I seemed to carry over the same habits.

As soon as I am frustrated and screw something up, I delete everything that was attached.

It teaches me as I go.

A very stubborn approach, but by the time the project is completed, I am playing the parts in real time, pushing the bass w/ the left while doing the leads and comps.

But that is the only benefit.

I need a Jager up chilled.

Hi,

Make me think you have too much support/band aid functions enabled in your sequencer.

As you have a good skill at playing, you should totally disable any options related to quantization. You will be free for cutting and pasting and reharsing where ever you want without having to bother of measures.....

Another option is if you don't play with the click, use the recording session to find your real tempo afterward, copy the wave individually on disk, restart a new session with the found tempo and import tracks. That's the easiest way without having to learn about tempo synch, warp, and all other stuffs related to synch. If there is no quantize related functions, you ll be able to put your takes wherever you want!

cheers

MD those are some really neat ideas.

I hadn't thought about that much.

I like using drum tracks for complete compositions where the groove must be there, so I would play along with the click, but never quantize it. It loses the pocket feel to me. I do have some quantized tracks that I have comparison for, and sometimes quantizing does work effectively, but dance type tracks are the only ones that seem to really need that.

Thanks 4 sharing your ideas.

I never knew you could quantize wav files, I will experiment w/ that in a non destructive way.

Orevua.

Hi,

Yep try it! I really think that all these band aid functions can be counter productive with a pro musicians like you. Use your sequencer quite basically, as a recorder, then and only when you need it, invest some time learning about time warp ...


cheers

Hmm...at least I would play along a (dummy) drumloop which fits somehow the style you're playing.
Makes adding parts much easier.
No need to quantize your play tho.
I also didn't quantize the life drumloop in my recent song Second lines i.e.