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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:57 am
by Tuccos
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:06 am
by sonolive
HI TUCCOS
i am pretty upset about creamware and i just hope this company dies soon and this cheater name CREAMWARE dissapears from my mind.
you missed the train tuccos ...
creamware is dead ... since 1st of march 2007
it is now SONIC CORE ...
cheers
olive
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:08 am
by kylie
you forgot to announce your cards in the "Scope Purchasing" forum.
there are still people who believe in the power of those dsps. consider gaining some bucks instead of shreddering
-greetings, markus-
Re: Scope is dieing, sadly...
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:01 am
by Mr Arkadin
Tuccos wrote:
i am pretty upset about creamware and i just hope this company dies soon
Nicely selfish attitude. Donate your worthless cards to the Mr Arkadin Charity instead. BTW no-one forced you buy 4.5 did they?
Re: Scope is dieing, sadly...
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:57 am
by hifiboom
Tuccos wrote:well well, it seems that my 2 nice Scope cards will end as fooder for a electro part shredder soon.
If I give you the money for transport and my adress, will you send your cards to me....?
so I will do the shredder for you.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:21 am
by astroman
sonolive wrote:HI TUCCOS
i am pretty upset about creamware and i just hope this company dies soon and this cheater name CREAMWARE dissapears from my mind.
you missed the train tuccos ...
oops, I never expected to confirm a statement by Olive, but he just hit the nail ...
Tuccos, you're complaining for almost 2 years - enough time to sell your stuff
eBay prices aren't that bad for vintage Scope stuff
cheers, Tom
you might consider to donate the cards for charity...

hi
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:34 am
by ppku
well, i just need more than LM7 -virtual instrument.
so...i keep scope
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:08 pm
by Shroomz~>
sonolive wrote:creamware is dead ... since 1st of march 2007
it is now SONIC CORE ...
I don't mean to be picky, but I think you mean
SonicCore Olive.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:49 pm
by Shroomz~>
I take that back. The new A16u graphics clearly show 'sonic' & 'core' as 2 separate words. My mistake.

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:37 pm
by hubird
even the name is unsure...

hope SC will soon make a real statement (by word, or by a release of something) about the future.
It's almost a year ago now...
Yes I know they are working hard, but
something should happen soon.
Sonolive, as representing DAS on Planetz, is doing fine btw.
I just take the opportunity to say so

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:58 pm
by Sounddesigner
"Scope is dieing, sadly..."
I don't know about that, i just launched Modular 3 today and it looked very much alive and healthy to me

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:04 am
by wayne
.....decay.....everywhere.....what am i to do??
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:24 am
by bosone
one thing that make me dubious is that if i look at the official price of the italian sonic core dealer, i see that a new LUNA still cost more than 500euro, while a scope is 2000.
damn, with all the other new PCI/USB options, new creamware / SC cards should cost at least a half.
don't forget that it is a technology 5-6 years old. one should expect some breakdown in prices and/or an improve in the DSP power... which did not happen...
let's hope for the best
when i will find a scope srb for 500€ i will for sure buy it...

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:42 am
by garyb
for many consumers, that'll be the thinking. for those who are shown what Scope really is, the price is very low. those other systems DO NOT compare.
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:07 am
by FrancisHarmany
for me, I cant wait to have my 2 new dedicated DAWs! Scope will be so much more alive for me then!!! Not to forget the new mixers which will make things so much easier.
What you are experiencing is not Scope dying....... its more like a rebirth

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:39 am
by Shayne White
I haven't used Scope in several months due to the fact that I've been composing pieces with VST synths only so they can be easily played on a laptop for future live gigs. But I have to say, I have not heard any VA synths for VST that come close to the character of CreamWare's. Arturia's CS-80V is pretty good, but the interface is SO hard to use! Their Moog emulations are horrible, too. I haven't tried MiniMonsta. But after using various VST synths, I'm really beginning to miss MiniMax. (I still haven't gotten Pro-12 or Prodyssey yet!) Even some of the older CW synths I'm beginning to long for again.
Scope is NOT dead yet. Just in suspension....
Shayne
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:28 am
by hubird
wayne wrote:.....decay.....everywhere.....what am i to do??

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:36 am
by astroman
Shayne White wrote:... But I have to say, I have not heard any VA synths for VST that come close to the character of CreamWare's. ...
NI's FM-8 does come very close to Sope's quality, but that's the only one I'm aware of...
Scope still performs extremely well, all it lacks is an optimized workflow under some circumstances - the concept (still) rules unmatched
cheers, Tom
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:18 am
by Shayne White
astroman wrote:
NI's FM-8 does come very close to Sope's quality, but that's the only one I'm aware of...
Scope still performs extremely well, all it lacks is an optimized workflow under some circumstances - the concept (still) rules unmatched
cheers, Tom
FM8 isn't a VA synth, it's FM. Rapture has excellent sound quality too, but it's not analog.
Shayne
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:35 pm
by wayne
It's dying ! .......Aaaaaaaaaargghhhhhh