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new physical dance style, 'Jump Style', Belgium/Holland

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:46 pm
by hubird
A new physical dance style, Jump Style, is getting popular.
Originally from Belgium, and got soon very popular in (probably hardcore circles in) Holland.
How to jump is explained here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3376563823
The result is amazing, it's like 2D pictures turn around in a split second.
Just give it a few seconds after the clip start, it's really home work :-D
But the guy explaines it very well, you don't need the words :-)
Part 1 to 3 :-)
At the end you get the whole picture, another guy and a girl join the scene then.

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:35 pm
by mr. prawn
hilarious!

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:05 pm
by kensuguro
you'd have to admit that the music is still fundamentally too fast for any sort of dancing without strain.. just the amount of movement of the center of gravity is a little odd for a step based dance.

Not that house steps can't be converted to suite this tempo.. but I'd still think there's not much to do in terms of steps (with lots of center mass movement) for this sort of tempo. Maybe stationary upper body movements, or gradual center of mass movements that occur accross several beats. The vertical down ups (Y axis) don't matter as much as sudden movements in the XZ axis plane. (ground plane)

Coincidentally, there is a house step that is also based on the "through" leg, while swapping the anchor leg position while pivoting the body at the waist. It's done alternating left and right legs, and I think it may come from a variation of a capoeira move.

I do think, though, that the steps in the video can be elaborated to a more "full" set of moves with a more balanced upper/lower body momentum balance, more efficient use of upper body both in terms of momentum and showmanship, and also expanding the style to include stationary (in place steps), mid position (ex: knees half bend), low position (down on knees), forward / back movement, left/right movement, turns of 90, 180, and 360. The upper/lower body balance is very important.

For example, typically, if the bottom (legs) are moving back and forth as much as this, the movements are countered by exaggerated arm movements, to balance the physical momentum, and also to balance the visual momentum. Just a plethora of different ways of converting the essence of the moves on the video into a fully developed dance style. It might be fun to spend some time developing it, as there isn't really an established style for hardcore / trance. (any 4x4 that's in the 140 neighborhood)

blah, anyway, just the "have directed choreographers and dancers" me just speaking. :-) Bottom line, it looks like lots of fun, and if I come accross a hardcore club, I'd be doing this step.

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:43 am
by astroman
kensuguro wrote:you'd have to admit that the music is still fundamentally too fast for any sort of dancing without strain.. just the amount of movement of the center of gravity is a little odd for a step based dance. ...
agreed - what the 'main instructor' in the video performs looks really sick and will add a ton of stress to the lower part of the spine - it almost feels painful while watching...
The 2nd ('bigger') guy gets it much better with a more upright body position and smooth transitions between the step sequences. Looks fun indeed and not too complicated.

cheers, Tom

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:48 am
by hubird
Hm, I think it was a bit hard to catch the groove out of the blue, during the shooting.
You know that feeling, when you think you could go on moving all day long without stressing?
Your feet seem to fly, you hardly touch the ground, and all landing energy is put forward to the jump again...
A few glimps of that can be seen in the video yet :-)
I bet it looks fascinating to see them dancing on a party.
And as always with these new trends: you have to be (very) young to perform this longer than 5 minutes :-D
It's about NRG, about being young and crazy, and I like it
...to look at :-D

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:19 am
by garyb
that's a good dance for starting fights...

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:13 pm
by Zer
new? this style is marching around the gabbascene for about 3 years now;)

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:34 pm
by hubird
there is a relationship with the gabba style, but as far as I know it's different yet.
The kicking movements of the legs were not part of the gabba style if you ask me :-)

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:00 am
by Zer
yep. But why do they build an industry of every dance style? Is it still that profitable?

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:10 am
by soylent.green
stardust wrote:POGO ?
Ministry of silly dance? Well sir, I have a silly dance and I'd like to obtain a Government grant to help me develop it.

No. that does no justice to this style. I'd rather call it "gabba-Capoeira" and I think it's far more elaborate than plain pogo.

To be honest...If i'd be younger I'd learn this 'cause this is dancing and work out in one ;-) Hm, I'm curious when I'll see the first fitness studio ads for jumpen-workout...imagine a group of retired accountants doing this ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumpen

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:55 am
by hubird
yo, why not, the newest fitness course all around here is pole-dancing :-D

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:49 am
by Zer
pole-danicng? I thoght that`s happening in a striptease bar...hmm...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tyAvaLsLFl8


http://www.myvideo.de/watch/1082121

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:08 pm
by hubird
http://www.paaldans-academy.nl/
http://www.jennifer4dance.nl/index_english.html
etc.
the popularisation of pole dancing...curses for teambuilding aimes, fitness, company festivities, etc.
:-)

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:13 pm
by kylie
man, we had lots of fun with that video, huub !

:lol:

-greetings, markus-

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:20 pm
by manfriday
further evidence that I just don't understand kids today....

*sigh*

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:29 pm
by hubird
in a positive way you had to laugh, Kylie?

Well, I enjoyed the cool way the guy explaines the different parts.
No other message, it's just about the subject.

Is it the way adds in general have transformed my way of looking at things?
Every add forces you to check two things:
the real content (cow in mountain-Sswitzerland), and the message behind it (buy our chocolate).
It gets to be a second nature, in fact it is annoying.

This clip is what it is.
No flowers offered, no flowers asked.
Just fun, and the wish to communicate.
I like it :-)

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:20 pm
by kylie
hubird wrote:in a positive way you had to laugh, Kylie?
yes, absolutely. somehow it reminded me of the start sequence of some b-boy performance before they go down on the ground and do their helicopters...
(yes, all the b-boys out there gonna kill me now for that, but I've seen people moving not too different, surely without the kicks, just to a very different kinda tune)
Well, I enjoyed the cool way the guy explaines the different parts.
No other message, it's just about the subject.
an amazing part indeed. he seems to take it very serious to provide a simple but efficient how-to-learn-jump-dance demonstration. I asked myself several times "omg, what's he gonna do?", but then, the mission is all clear...

as the text beside the video says: so easy that even jan balkenende could understand it.. :)

I had lotsa fun with the short interludes like going to the bike and plugging the mp3 player to the built-in speaker, closing the seat cover then and starting the next chapter... :)
I like it :-)
me too :) :)

-greetings, markus-

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:53 pm
by scary808
I think in the UK this fellow would be referred to as a "CHAV".

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:41 am
by Zer
err..what's that?

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:50 am
by Zer