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a thread about sx,giga and scope

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:18 pm
by skwawks
There was a thread somewhere in this forum about giga sx 'n scope . I cant find it anymore ...did a search and all that ,went through all the forums :-?
can anyone point me at it .Garyb and scope4 contributed and a few others too. much appreciated if you can

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:46 pm
by garyb
don't know which one that was, but GVI, cabase and scope work fine together, although for Jimmy's use, stand alone GVI was more to the point last i heard....

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:51 pm
by skwawks
Yeah thanks Gary . I was wondering if you can have the gsif module and the asio2 module active in the same project . I would be adventurous but the last [and only] freak out with gigastudio3 gave a bsod and wiped out the scope asio driver in the sx song that was open at the time :evil: I ended up with a multimedia asio driver instead the next time I opened the song and it took me about 2 hours to convince sx that I really really wanted to use the scope driver . I was new to giga at the time :roll: and I'm not quite sure what I did anymore other than that it was definitely WRONG . I haven't tried to rewire yet cos I'm only using giga to have some fun with the piano and string sounds so far but those sounds are so friggin good that I reckon giga and me are going to be long time pals for that sort of thing . I know there are guys here who like and use the sts series a lot but although I keep banging away at it ,it's just the little things like missing notes and the like that give me the shits so I guess it's scope for the synths/git emulation and the processing [I'm no expert but I think I like the processing more than my uad1 ] and giga for the samples .
Cheers
Paul

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:48 pm
by garyb
yes you can, but as you know, g3 is very unstable(as is GVI standalone with the asio driver, it's great with wave, though), and resource hungry. rewire should work very well, but the resource issue would still be there. if your cubase projects are not very heavy, you should be fine with both apps, but otherwise, you might upgrade to GVI. it's much more well-behaved(no gsif driver, bad asio implementation, but works really well as a vst) and doesn't use most of the computer's resources.

-btw, if you have a crash that kills the asio driver, an immediate reboot should restore order. when cubase crashes, it doesn't let go of the asio driver, so the driver isn't available when the app is restarted, unless you reboot first.

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:29 pm
by skwawks
O.K. I'll gird the loins and try both modules in the same project . My sx projects are pretty light anyway . I really want to give giga it's own machine ..midi in and spdif or adat out . M-audio do the gsif2 drivers now and I have to do something soon or I might not be able to get the pci slots . Uncle e has good prices on 1010lt or even an audiophile 192 or 2496 would probably do the trick wouldn't it . I can live with the twitchyness of giga ,I'm usually pretty careful and I dont do enormous dense projects .
I did the rebooting and all that and scope didn't come back ,I had to open other songs and institute the scope drivers in them before I eventually got the corrupted song back :-? it was weird but then so is life isn't it . No problems since .
I was thinking of rebuilding the modules in the projects that use sts and see if that improves the sts behaviour . I have to use the 2000 to get mostly faultless tracking of keyboard input .
cheers
Paul

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:07 pm
by hubird
well done :-)

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:47 am
by synthetic88
GS3 and GVI are very solid on a well-built machine.

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:48 am
by garyb
they work well enough for Jimmy to use them live day in and out! that's pretty darn good.
no software is 100% perfect. GS3 is touchy during set up, and GVI's asio support in stand alone mode is suspect, but everything else about them is first rate.

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:23 pm
by synthetic88
Christopher Young: 14 GS3 machines working 24/7 on Spiderman 3
Danny Elfman: at least 10 GS3 machines
Hans Zimmer: Who knows how many, in the dozens

It's like owning a sportscar. If you use cheap parts in a Lamborghini, you might complain when it breaks down. But use good stuff (Mobo, Processor, RAM, soundcard), and it drives like a dream. 700 voices from a Core2Duo.

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:36 pm
by skwawks
Hey Synthetic,
not complaining , just thinking about integrating it the best way I can manage .
It looks like it wants it's own machine doesn't it :wink: . My scope /sx machine is good enough for scope /sx ....but the extra load ,and it is a big load ,needed some consideration . Anyway just like those guys I LOVE it tho I dont think I'll be getting into the 700 voices space just yet :o
Cheers
Paul

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:28 am
by garyb
synthetic88, i am not dissing gigastudio!
i often recommend it to clients!!!

just for the record-
GIGASTUDIO IS A GREAT PRODUCT!

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:59 pm
by synthetic88
:)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:55 pm
by skwawks
finally found the thread in tech talk

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:13 pm
by dawman
Gigastudio 3 Orchestra is solid live. But after many whiny producers made request after request for VST compatability, etc. Gigastudio became overbloated, and it's stability when using the extra uneeded abilities had changed as well. I have no need to use VST FX on it, but GigaPulse is stable, and sounds great.

Giga 2.54 was stable and proud, GS3 just added uneeded extras that still don't work well enough to use live. GigaPulse was a great addition, but all of the VST related FX and such, were totally useless. As I purchased Blue Tubes just to see what was up, and there are still a couple of FX in that overpriced package that still won't work, so I just use GigaPulse only.

Tascam dropped the ball w/ GS3 and the lack of tech support as the threads demonstrate @ most forums, but they picked it back up and scored well with GVI.


BTW, I use GS3 to tweak all of my WAV samples from the Kyma Capybara to use in Solaris in the WAV Oscillators, and they give Solaris the ability to sound like no synth known to man.

I have been w/ Giga since it's inception. I do not plan on switching to any other
app. Giga rules live, and that's all I care about. Besides the weak FX called NFX, and the VST effects pale in comparison to Scopes FX. I believe Hans Zimmer would agree on that also, as his Giga DAW's w/ Scope were running 24/7 last time I heard.