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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:07 pm
by Leper
<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://freakmod.expertgear.com/freakmod ... .mp3"><img src="/forums/images/listen_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" Song"> Song</a><BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Electronic,Trance<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Effects,Pulsar Mixers,Pulsar Synths<BR> copyright © 2006 Witek Radomski<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> Here's an uplifting soundtrack/music program made for a Canadian competitive figure skater. I used the fantastic energyXT to sequence it.

Creamware synths are Modular 2, BlueSynth, Pro-12, and.. Kickme, of course :smile:

Other instruments are Nord Lead 2x, Korg Karma, and Roland RD-300SX for piano.


I hope you enjoy it - please tell me what you think!

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:06 pm
by AudioIrony
Well done - seems perfectly suited for the purpose.
A nice energy - and I can actually see figure skating.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:56 am
by astroman
well, I've never attended a figure skating competition 'live', but considering the horrible TV sound, I doubt this track will work... :wink:

the musical ideas (that have to support the skater in the first place anyway) are fine imho, and i agree on the pictured flow of movements.

my most important concern is about the use of reverb/delay, the 'decaying' snares in particular.
that's perfect in a 'dry' studio/living room environment, but an 'empty' skating hall has a ton of long delays on it's own...

piano as 'lead voice' works very good under these conditions, the arpeggio like lines may need just a little more substance to properly 'guide' the spectator (as the hall will thin them out)

the jazzy piano at the end is completely misplaced imho (stereo sample/phase issues/panorama?)
As a kind of tension climax it's not such a 'familiar' tone in this context and adds individuality to the performance if it appears more upfront.

Imho such a mix is rather demanding, as there's an acoustically extreme destination (and possibly additional broadcast requirements).

I've seen more than once that a badly selected (or performed) music put a skater/couple back.
On the other hand the 102nd version of Carmen or the 212th Conquest of Paradise are a kind of boredom on their own - though they usually serve their purpose well in catching the audience... :roll:

cheers, Tom

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:58 am
by kensuguro
everything works except the break with the lead and piano.. I think the piano would work, if it's used more like a hit tone, rather than playing a solo-ish phrase. Or, if you want to do solo-ish thing, than I think you'd have to go a bit harder, with zzinging lower backing fifth left hand and lower register solo-ing with the right hand. (more overall power) With a very bright piano, of course.

So, it's either mellow out with little movement with a mellow sounding steinway-ish piano, or get macho and tough with a bosendorfer sounding piano.

The solo-ish movement right now is kind of too weak in the high registers. Other than that, it sounds great, well executed.

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:39 am
by Leper
Thank you very much astroman, kensuguro, for your criticism. I totally see what you mean about the problems with this piece. I still have time to test it out in an arena, and am going to do so right away. I forgot to realize that an arena has plenty of reverb in itself, and I should probably record the track quite dry with that in mind! I also now realize that a lot of small details would be lost, and I'm going to reshape the track and listen carefully in the nearby skating arena.

Thanks again for the helpful comments!

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:16 pm
by katano
like the arrangement a lot, well done! keep us up to date with your experiences playing the track in the arena.

greez
roman