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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:32 pm
by Spirit
So, there I was last night risking 240,000 volts by standing out in a severe electrical storm with my Minidisk recorder.
But curses ! Today when I listen to it there seems to have been some sort of "mic sensitivity" setting on

When there's no thunder you hear the rain; then as soon as there's thunder, the rain noise almost completely drops out.
I've got a Panasonic SJ-MR220 which has two mic sesntivity levels and a manual level adjust. Don't know what it was on last night (hey, I'm new to this), but I'm hoping that "manual" will in future eliminate this problem.
Any insights or tips on field recording with MD most appreciated !
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:33 am
by ChrisWerner
Yes I had this problem, too.
The only thing that helped me a bit was to record the things in the manual record level mode and more quite than normal, maybe -6db or something.
You have to try to find the best record level in manual mode for your MD.
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:44 am
by Counterparts
On 2006-01-03 17:32, Spirit wrote:
So, there I was last night risking 240,000 volts by standing out in a severe electrical storm with my Minidisk recorder.
But curses ! Today when I listen to it there seems to have been some sort of "mic sensitivity" setting on

When there's no thunder you hear the rain; then as soon as there's thunder, the rain noise almost completely drops out.
That's just a signal-to-noise ratio issue, Shirley!
Can't say I can hear the rain in the midst or a gert thunderclap.
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:40 am
by Spirit
Looks like another storm tonight so I might get the chance to try a lower level, thanks for the tip.
And Counterparts, you're right, but there's a noticeable "lag" between the thunder and when the rain level climbs back up.
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am
by Shroomz~>
Spirit, you'll get a better quality signal in an electrical storm if you hold a metal pole above your head. As long as you're not standing on the ground at the time you'll find the difference quite alarming !!
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:51 am
by Lima
I know exacly what's the problem, because I frequently use my MD to take recordings of instruments and ambients.
When I record with my minidisc I have to disable its internal compressor/limiter. According to the manual, to do this I need to choose the record level manually and I have to do this everytime I begin a new recording.
It's quite annoing in the case of short and frequent recording, so in this case I suggest to pause the recording instead of stopping it.
I've got a Sony MD but I think it could be the same for Md of other brands.
Hope it helps!

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:13 am
by ChrisWerner
Beside Shroomz note I would recommend you to stand on one foot, only.
The risk to loose life when a thunder hits a tree near you, is nearly nullified.
That´s because the voltage of the thunder moves away from its impact point in a radial way. When you stand on two differnet ESD lines you can die.
Good luck out there!
EDIT:
Damn, my girlfriend qualify my one foot hint, it depends on your footsize. But she suggested me to use stilts.
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:11 am
by Nestor
Spirit, try to get an insurance along with your MD, just in case... it sounds dangerous your thing

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:21 am
by next to nothing
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:35 am
by Counterparts
On 2006-01-04 03:40, Spirit wrote:
Looks like another storm tonight so I might get the chance to try a lower level, thanks for the tip.
And Counterparts, you're right, but there's a noticeable "lag" between the thunder and when the rain level climbs back up.
As Lima said, that does sound like the effect of a compressor. I haven't tried using my MD as a recorder in this manner yet (actually, I don't have a mic for it)
BTW, what microphones do you use/would recommend?
Royston
@ Shroomz - LOL!

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:10 pm
by garyb
of course there's a limiter and expander in almost all of those types of consumer recording devices....
a little creative editing(snip, snip, blend back with the original track) should do it....
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:35 pm
by braincell
Portable mic preamp:
http://www.soundprofessionals.com
Then you can use the line in rather than mic in.
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