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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:52 am
by doctec
Hi, new to the group...

I bought a Luna II card for use in my desktop PC back in 2001. The machine was running Win98. The card was flaky at times but seemed to perform fairly well for the most part. I used it almost exclusively with Reason.

In May of 2004, I got & activated Scope 4 but was too busy with other things to get it installed and running. Besides I had other plans:

In August 2004 I bought a high-end laptop running Windows XP Pro, and an M-Audio Firewire 1814. I virtually stopped using my desktop system altogether shortly therafter. That may have been a mistake, since my laptop crapped out on me just before the holidays (major hardware failure) and I had to scramble to refurbish my desktop PC (new mobo w/firewire, bigger hard drive, new memory and more of it, XP Pro) so I'd have a PC to use while the laptop is out for repairs.

I installed the Luna II card in the desktop and managed to kind of get it going with XP but it was a trial. The Creamware website is not particularly helpful in terms of understanding just what it is I need to install software-wise. (Part of my probiem is I've been away from the Creamware realm for over a year now and have forgotten some of the hoops I had to jump through to get the Luna II working with my old Win98 system.)

In short: made the mistake of turning on PnP in the mobo bios at the start... Luna3 software wouldn't even install, Luna 2.5 software installed OK but wouldn't see the card or let me use it. Turned off PnP in mobo and voila, XP sees and installs card, and I can use it - but periodically the card becomes inaccessible and I have to reboot. I also had one instance where upon launching the Luna graphical interface, the software wanted my hardware key, which I gave it and it rejected, so I quit out of the dialog and poof - the GUI comes up and works fine. For a little while. You get the idea.

So I kindly ask those in the know: is Scope 4 all I need in terms of software to use the Luna II in my rebuilt system? Does it include the necessary drivers for Luna II cards, or do I need to do a separate install of Luna drivers? I bought and paid for the "Luna 3" update when it first became available - do I still need it or what? For now, I've shut down the Luna II card so as not to spin my wheels trying to figure out why it won't work properly/reliably and am just using the Firewire 1814.

If any of you have had similar problems and would be willing to share what you know, I'd appreciate it. It would be killer to be able to use both the Luna II and the Firewire 1814 on the same system.

(BTW, my system specs: P4 2.8mhz, 1 gig memory, Asus P4P800SE mobo, Radeon graphics card. OS: WinXP Pro SP2 with all updates. Music SW: Reason 3, Ableton 5, Reaktor 5, Absynth 3, Pro-53, FM7, Adobe Audition. And fortunately I located my Scope 4 activation code and am downloading a fresh copy of SFP4 from the Creamware ftp site as I speak.)



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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:50 pm
by arela
welcome back :smile:
All you need is included in Scope 4

Search this web, and you will get some installing tips.
Forget Luna software, i'm not shure, but i believe they where made for WIN98.
(there is a xp update i believe, but if you have Scope, thats the best choice.)

Not shure about using both cards at the same time, maybe with a ASIO wrapper, but ....

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:28 pm
by doctec
Thanks for the info, I'll let you know how I make out. I got some docs from the Creamware ftp site, there's a lot more there than there was the last time I visited (about a year and a half ago). There's an app called Hammer on the Peter Tools site (http://www.petertools.com) that's supposed to allow for the feeding of audio data into the RB-338 device of a Reason rack. Thing is: for it to work, it needs to get its audio from audio hw/sw independent of Reason. So if I set up Reason to output to the M-Audio FW 1814, and I have Hammer set up to feed audio into the Reason RB-228 interface via the Luna II, I should be able to minimize the Hammer audio latency by quite a bit... in theory, anyway, and that's assuming I can get everything working properly - a tricky proposition judging from other user posts I've seen here ... :smile:

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