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I know that Creamware has the A16 and ultraA16. And of course there are the various ADAT recorders. I have been using an old Alesis QS8, which has a 4-channel ADAT output. I was never very happy with the on-board sounds until I bypassed the the DAs and went straight into my Scope. They sounded much better! I don't think this feature is included in the newer line of Alesis keyboards.

So what gear do you have with ADAT outputs that you have been using with your Scope/Pulsars?

Cheers,
Cory

If you can find a Q20, it's an excellant sounding reverb/FX unit w/ ADAT I/Os. Alesis wasn't used to making high end stuff, so it didn't sell as well as they had hoped. The plates are to die for.



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Jimmy V.

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A16

Rod

A second PC with another Scope: 8 stereo channels link!

noah

On 2005-12-29 11:01, erminardi wrote:
A second PC with another Scope: 8 stereo channels link!

me too

Just the A16U right now..

Alesis AI3 converter box and a PowerMac G5. Works great!

RME 9636 soundcard (in same machine) and A16 Ultra.

Fostex VC-8, a very cheap AD/DA-converter. Works only with 44.1 kHz, but it's enough for me ...

I just bid on a Behringer Ultragain for 80 USD no reserve. Is this a decent little converter for live performance? I'm sure that Apogee dithering algos are of higher quality, but live the difference I'm sure is not noticable.Anyone ever use this?

yOUR fRIEND aND mINE,

jIMMY v.

I think for $80 you'd be fine for live use, and you wouldn't even be too bothered if you dropped your beer on it while packing up after the gig

BTW I'm sure you know all this, but there's more to conversion than dithering etc.. even my crap ears can tell the difference between an Apogee and an A16 Ultra hehe. Having said this the A16U is still totally great... the difference is very small - I'd say a kind of sheen and better definition/transient integrity. In any case for live use a Behringer would be fine... unless you're using some kind of top-of-the-line PA rig you wouldn't reap the benefits of a primo converter IMHO.

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NoahEX, 2 x O1V digital mixers & 1 Emu sampler.
8 channels from each, 32 total, works great.
Adat returns back out to both O1Vs & the sampler. Noah uses BNC word clock.

The absolute best you can do for an ADAT interface is the Presonus Firestation. It was originally meant to be a Firewire audio device, but it really isn't so good at that. It is much better as an ADAT interface and/or standalone line mixer. It has line inputs as well as two mic pre/instrument inputs (work in both tube or solid state modes). They are no longer in production, but you can pick them up on Ebay usually for less than $300.

I have my scope cards attached to an RME Multiface (Hammerfall) which is in my main DAW box.

On 2005-12-29 17:32, scope4live wrote:
I just bid on a Behringer Ultragain for 80 USD no reserve. Is this a decent little converter for live performance?

more than decent.

i use my adat interfaces with a couple of frontier tangos(8ch ad/da).

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Fostex VM200 mixer. works great and was a steal on the ebay, used.

First I had a Fostex VM-88 mixer and then upgraded to a Behringer DDX-3216. I am quite satisfied with my DDX-3216 except for the fact I bought it when it costed 3 times as much as it does today. It also comes with a cooling fan which might not be as silent as one would wish. I am sending 16 channels in both directions over ADAT.

I'm using a Behringer 3216DDX mixer with an ADAT expander card in it - I can ship 16 tracks to and from the Creamware card, it's very flexible for routing. This mixer is what I use for live shows, it's got more than enough features, but the quality of its effects and mixing are pretty noticeably below that of the Creamware stuff. So in the home studio I just use the mixer to convert a signal to the digital domain, and route it to the creamware card, dry, without doing any processing or mixing. (I've tried using it in conjunction with the creamware card for mixdown, but it just muddies up the sound.)

One thing I have tested, and would like to try live someday, is using the creamware card to replace the 'guts' of the 3216 mixer. Just route all the inputs directly to the card, post-fader (take them out of the 3216's mains too), do the processing on the card, and route the stereo mix back to the mixer, so it can get converted back into analog and from there into the PA. It should sound great, if I ever had time to do such a complicated setup (and I had someone on hand with better knowledge and experience in sound reinforcement, to take advantage of the better quality.) I was able to record 16 tracks simultaneously and it worked great. I also had a few drum triggers but no processor for them, and when I got the flexor modules I was able to hook the triggers to the mixer, route them to the card, and presto! triggered drum kit.

On 2005-12-30 07:20, valis wrote:
I have my scope cards attached to an RME Multiface (Hammerfall) which is in my main DAW box.

So do you use the scope cards as an "external" mixer?

I am planning to use scope cards in a separate computer as a monitor mixer, and the ADAT from an Apogee A/D will be passed to my DAW. Sounds like this is what you do.

Is it pretty kewl?