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<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://www.planetz.com/Pulsar/files/mus ... .mp3"><img src="/forums/images/listen_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" Song"> Song</a><BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Electronic<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Effects,Pulsar Mixers<BR> magronbass<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> more trance than house. poison entering directly into your brains, toxins fusing with neurons. A bit of mechanical and electric madness.

The structure and sound is pretty thematic, the whole piece centers around a simple bassline that sort of has a mind of its own. Imagine roaring machines, big ones, like trucks.

What I want to do: play this piece in complete darkness, load a group of people up with booze, and have them run around as fast as then can. Their voices and sounds will go perfectly over this piece.

This is the kind of mood I was aiming at in my other trance tune. You do it much better than I ever could...

This is techno, man!
Well done, Ken

techno, meaning "too old"? I thought it'd be psy trance or something like that.

Ehm, what's with the title Ken ?

Not being paranoid Not being paranoid Not being paranoid

Hey Ken,
Trance or Techno, as long as it sounds Good to me! (140 BPM?), I like it!
Well done, Ken.

LongStudio

On 2005-11-16 13:16, kensuguro wrote:
techno, meaning "too old"? I thought it'd be psy trance or something like that.

Too, old? not ment to say that, really

It's just that if you wanne label it, techno comes most close, even concidering the principal dynamic character of music culture (or any culture for that sake)

You always seem to love style naming and definitions, but you often amase me how easily you hussle style names like hiphop, house and trance related to your tracks
Not that bad, you don't hurt anybody

Psy trance is really totally different from your track, seriously.
This is so obvious, dunno where I should start to explain, there are just differences....well, except then if you wish the sound of the dry (!) bassdrum and the fm (?) synth that comes in at 1:05.
But you can't catch a style that easy, music is culture, it's very hard to copy a style without being part of it or listen to it day after day.

Just surf the net for the relevant sites.

To add this: I'm working on a song with dj Erique, and me by myself is constantly amazed by the reasons he likes or dislikes a sound or musical part I suggest.
I even don't wanne know really, styling (and arrangement) is the ultimate reason I work with him (or any dj).

We (on Planetz) are musicions, we look totally different to what's nice or not in a track from every scene related dj.

I deal with you however the fascination what makes a style,
cheers, great track anyway, to repeat myself
cheers.

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It's just that if you wanne label it, techno comes most close, even concidering the principal dynamic character of music culture (or any culture for that sake)

You always seem to love style naming and definitions, but you often amase me how easily you hussle style names like hiphop, house and trance related to your tracks
Not that bad, you don't hurt anybody

well, ya know how it is. It's just interesting to see how a certain style is evaluated. And if it's different from what I had I mind, I better learn what was different.

Ah, anyway, I gotta pick up some albums and start listening. I haven't listened to other people's stuff in a while!

No problem Ken, just talking

Psy-trance (some still name it Goa) has a very characteristic sound, and as I see it, the style is extremely marked out, compared to club-dance or even techno.
Listen to a few (or even one) album, and you know what I mean.

The iron but loose drive of bassdrum and bass synth (much hammering 'wood' frequencies in both, very style-essential), always built with ongoing 16 notes per 4/4 bar, the huge transition fx sounds at every 16th bar, the space and trippy atmosphere, and in general and above all, the unbelievable tight and ongoing dance character, it's a machine really.
Yes, it therefor is extremely trancy, but that way you can call even your mother trance
In the past the name said 'Goa Trance', and you have 'Psy-trance', maybe this put you on the wrong track.

And still I've said nothing that could claim any covering of the style as such.

Listening is a thausend times faster and more reliable, as you knew already
I'll post a link to an arbitrary song on my server, you'll recognize soundtricks you did in your track

http://www.ezsound.nl/huub/PlanetZ/06_TAKE_.MP3

It's old already, but believe me, it doesn't matter so much

Every element in it serves just the flow, which in fact makes every experimental trick possible
Not so weird this one, but the drive IS psy-trance, 200%, I visited Samothraki psytrance festival, 12 days 24 hrs non stop PT, with only this drive...(well, you know what I mean).
In Holland it starts coming up, finally, in mid Europe it's huge (and fully 'independent', a relict of old (hippy?) and new (globalistic) culture
Many people however think the music is too simple minded, due to it's somehow rigid formula.
it's not really a style to 'consume', you love it or you leave it, as it seems.

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Luvin' this m8

Check out some old tracks by Zen Paradox. Same vibe, just more driving, dirty synth lines on his part.

This is excellent stuff & like Hubird said it's techno.

More of this please Sir

The noise was nice. I think you might want to lower the dose next time.

Hey Ken!

Love the tune! It's "off the chain" as them kids say. When the previous post call
it Techno they mean the actual genre techno.
To many laymans, techno is a blanket term for electronic music or all old electronic.

Here are some genuine Techno artists to check out:

http://www.dj-surgeon.com

http://www.k-research-recs.com

http://www.axisrecords.com

Wanna be naming style of music, check this out :

http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

Pretty cool guide

thank you Marcuspocus, I searched the house for this one, but I couldn't find it anymore
it's absolutely great indeed, the guy knows what he is talking about

I like what he said about goa:

"the only trance that still has some integrity left".

indeed

Maybe the Trance scene will end where it started. Doubt it tho.