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<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://www.studiopaulrmartin.com/Demos/ ... .mp3"><img src="/forums/images/listen_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" Song"> Song</a><BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Trance<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Mixers<BR> SOCAN© 2005 Paul R. Martin<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> I KNOW I am breaking a lot of the rules that seem to reign over the production of Trance. I say "SCREW the rules!", I just want to know if people would dance to this and if it sounds good.

There is something about dance music that lacks a symphonic element and I am trying to incorporate one. Although, I really went overboard masking the flute, oboe, clarinet, bassoon and contrabassoon using sidechaining noise gates and reverb.

Any comment?

I remember the times you was using reverb like showering water
You're really getting somewhere, Paul, good job, you exactly got the idea

Very clever stuff.
I think the only people who wouldn't be dancing would be musicians trying to work out how the hell you got those sounds!!!

While listening to this my foot tapping and head bobbing stopped long enough to drift off with those filtered / gated / flangy bits - very trance inducing if you ask me and I'm drinking a truck load of coffee this morning!!
Good stuff - the music (The coffee is obviously crap)
Regards

Whyle listening I was waiting for another fantastic Paulguitarsolo, but no...cool you didn't, Paul

I can't believe it!
You guys mean I am getting it right this time???

I have just finished a remix with a bit of a tribal feel to it. Also made it more "melodic".

I would NEVER put a guitar solo in a techno tune, Huub...or wouldn't?

It picks up after 3 minutes. Where are the filter sweeps? I hear a few in the distant background but they should be way up front. At times I feel like it is missing a melody. It needs the sixteenth note synthesizer action. I like a lot of goa aka psychedelic trance. This sounds like that but without the cool lead hypnotic upper synthesizer parts. Check out Hallucinogen. They do it perfectly. Your piece is pretty outstanding at the end. It would be interesting if you played your guitar in there. The best trance often pushes the limits of the genre.

http://www.studiopaulrmartin.com/Demos/ ... dRemix.mp3

This is the remix. I hope it sounds ok because I had to mix it through headphones so as not to bother my wife who is afflicted with the same cold as me...

Better?

The drums and bass are perfect to me. That first sample with the pitch bend comes in too soon and goes too long in my opinion although it does go great with the counter line. Personally I would eliminate it. It sounds muffled but good in parts though. Maybe you could just EQ it. I'm about 6 minutes into it. Great!

The ending is the best part. You should build a song on that. The synthesizers sound nice there.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: braincell on 2005-11-13 20:33 ]</font>

there's something creamy about this piece, like silky and light. No grit, which makes this a clean and fashionable piece... I'm thinking "Armani Exchange". Or maybe Versace since their line has more of a clubber feel to it. Atleast for the latino population in South Beach anyway..

The pitch gliding parts, or more like the "bending" attribute that gets transfered from part to part creates a carrying theme. Sort of repetitious, but the repetition works to emphasize the pitch "language" you're using to bring out the motif.

I totally understand what you mean by doing trance from a symphonic viewpoint. I guess not trance specifically, but loosely chromatic material in general. I guess it happens on a frequency band basis, and not so much pitch (rigid notes) basis.

Great overall sound, love the drums.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: kensuguro on 2005-11-16 13:15 ]</font>

Hopefully not your last try Paul

I've got a little tip for trancing your drums.
Try starting your drum groove from a half bar & play with stuttering different notes in that short groove to give some kind of repetative swing. Then copy it out to 1, 2, 3 or whatever bar count you're working at. Just a suggestion. Hope you don't mind.

Thanks for the suggestion, Shroomz.

Can you elaborate abit? I'm not too certain I grasp what you mean about stuttering notes?

Hey! Anybody up for a remix of this?

It's just about a groove. You can get some surprizing results when you limit yourself to half a bar groove as a base.

indeed, half bar grooves can work great

great sounds, great track, but i can't help thinking putting open hats on the beat or some 16th swing ride will make things boom the roof right off...
must be my techno driven taste