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<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://www.planetz.com/Pulsar/files/mus ... .mp3"><img src="/forums/images/listen_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" Song"> Song</a><BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Effects,Pulsar Mixers<BR> copyright © 2005 Sybil's ORbit<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> Hi,
This is the result of attempting to implement your ideas for the tune.
Lots of nasty shaping and extra noise - too much?

Cheers



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: blgrace on 2005-11-10 15:16 ]</font>

(= nice track)

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2005-11-01 06:14 ]</font>

Reminds me of EBM music, maybe Front 242 style "Circling Overhead" ? I thin k it could be ripped up even more, still sounds a bit clean for the subject matter to me. (Maybe some distorted TV samples or static as well ?)

Yeah, I don't hear much indsutrial in this group. That's nice. I was laughing so hard when you said "If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands".

Thanks for the comments guys.
Spirit - I had several sub-texture tracks with glitches, radio noise and other strange sounds running under the whole thing - but they seem to disappear - maybe the vocals are way too loud.

I might go through and do some automation on some of the texture tracks and try and lift some of the more noisier/strange sounds out into the front of the mix and see if that makes any difference to the overall perception of them.
I'll also try squishing the vocal lines and maybe applying some type of spacial effect to make them sound like they are centre/front with no spread except for the panned stuff ???
In the early stages, I found the more distortion/textures I added - the less space,dynamic changes and separation I was getting.
It still has a pretty full on "wall of sound" effect most of the way through which is not what I intended, but I gave up.
However... I can't help thinking that this takes away any dynamic benefits that I may have achieved.
It's really hard to get that right - anyone have any ideas or comments of the ones I presented?

I would put the voice a little back indeed.

Dynamicly mixing the noise track is a good idea, I apply that method all the time. The song could benefit from some noise, as Spirit notes.

Another trick could be to group everything except bassguitar (basssynth) and drums, and then put this whole group backward in the mix a little.

Yet it sounds good now tho

Thanks hubird - it seems the fix and method was staring me in the face and I was just too lazy to do it.

I'll try some experimentation (and this time) upload the changes.
I'm glad you like the track -

On 2005-11-01 07:02, braincell wrote:
Yeah, I don't hear much indsutrial in this group. That's nice. I was laughing so hard when you said "If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands".

I have to admit I laughed when I thought of putting that one in there. I WAS going to change the last line of that to something a bit darker - but I thought the Sunday School original couldn't be beaten in the context of the song.
Thanks for noticing it!!!!

File updated with extra noise and nasty shaping

This is way better. More dirt the better. I also had a little idea... Where you say "If you're happy and you know it...", well, everyone knows what comes after that, so what not surprise them ? Instead of "...clap your hands", maybe it could be something along the lines of "If you're happy and you know... slash your fcuken hands, beat your head on concrete". The same applies to "I met a man who wasn't there...." perhaps vary the last few lines?

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Spirit on 2005-11-19 18:37 ]</font>

Sorry man, it's not my cup of cha i'm affraid.
It would need a totally different groove to work for me. This groove isn't an easy one to get right at all. But then, all our definitions of 'right' are different. I like Spirit's ideas for the vocals.

Thanks for the comments again guys.
The very first version had "If you're happy and you know it . . slash your wrists" . . but it just didn't work as well as the irony of sticking with the Sunday school "clap your hands"

The more I listen to this tune now- the more I'm over it
One of those - seemed like a good idea at the time...