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Okay we are falling behind here. We need tags, rss enclosures and a podcast.

We do?

On 2005-09-20 14:58, braincell wrote:
Okay we are falling behind here. We need tags, rss enclosures and a podcast.

I think not. It is fast and simple, what else one could want?

Automation is what one could want.

I'll put it to you this way. I used to manually download podcast mp3 files. It got to be too many so I broke down and got a podcatcher. In my case iTunes. Now one program gets everything I need.

The value of tags should be self evident for anyone who has used them.

A podcast of our music section would garnish thousands of listeners. An rss feed of our other postings would make it easier to collect the information.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: braincell on 2005-09-20 17:04 ]</font>

rss would be nice. Checking the forums now and then like now is still not a problem tho.

is rss easy to add by the way? Like some add in pluging kinda thing? Not sure how the whole phpbbs thing works..

rss would be nice. Checking the forums now and then like now is still not a problem tho.

is rss easy to add by the way? Like some add in pluging kinda thing? Not sure how the whole phpbbs thing works..

One of the advantages of PlanetZ forum is the fact it's simple and fast loading. We don't need anything could lower the opening time, do we? Me in particular I post my music only for you to judge, not for everybody in the net. Besides, if the intrests in d/l our music rises, the trafic does as well so we end up with slower operation...

RSS, or a module with 'recent topics' like on Adern would be nice indeed. Maybe I should ask Red to send the recent topics module to John... He said it was very easy to implement.

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... 3&forum=31

i tried discussing it earlier but not too much enthusiasm

braincell wrote:
Okay we are falling behind here. We need tags, rss enclosures and a podcast.

My 2p: I couldn't give a flying baboon's backside about RSS, podcasts, "rich content macromedia webpages" or any of that. I just want fast-loading clean HTML, thanks

Royston

...er, i don't even know what they are. i feel inadequate without them i'm sure.

Mr A

RSS is easy to add. Podcasts are here to stay. It is not a fad.

Okay, just a little technical sidenote: RSS doesn't make forum slower (*). It's not a layer on top of existing forum. It's a parallel, additional functionality that can co-exist.

(*) Unless making this forum RSS-aware doesn't make this hugely more popular, so the server would me more busy serving all the RSS-requests in addition to ordinary.

Braincell,
given, that PZ is a private owned site
and i find it it already too kind from such a busy person as John to host a number of gigabytes of content and maintain it,
i think the attitude of your post is a bit inapropriate...

RSS feeds can be automatically generated and doesn't take up more space than is already being used. I would imagine with phpBB there are already many free options for this. The tags are something the users could create. It makes it easier to search for things. My suggestions are meant to make the site better. I didn't intend to create a lot of work for John although I realize there is some initial face lift that would have to be done. For the podcast I was just thinking of adding a feed to the music section so it wouldn't be like a standard podcast with talking but if people want to volunteer we could make it a regular music podcast. We certainly have enough talented people in here for it to work. It would be nice if more people listened. It could potentially use a lot of bandwidth but I seriously doubt that it would get that popular. Bittorrent would be a free way of doing that if it turned out to be a problem.

I don't think John is in this to make PlanetZ compete with every other forum on teh interweb. That's really not the point of this forum as far as I can see. Have you ever even seen any advertising on here?!

As for podcasts - this is only relevant if you have an iPod and use itunes. I don't want or need to use either. I have a perfectly adequate mp3 player that sounds better than an 'iPoo', records, works as a hard drive in Macs and PCs,you don't have to run itunes and everything is funky and free of restrictions

If you have something to 'podcast' you can upload an mp3 and everyone can download it and put it into any mp3 player (including ipod and itunes)...

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: darkrezin on 2005-09-21 16:54 ]</font>

I'm sorry but you are misinformed. Podcasts do not require an iPod and iTunes which recently added podcasts is only one of the several excellent free podcatchers (a client to automate podcast delivery). Podcasts also do not require an mp3 player and uploads are simply an mp3 file with an RSS enclosure. Podcasts are not related in any way to the Apple Computer company.

Anyone in this group can listen to podcasts without buying anything. The point of the podcatcher and RSS in general is that you don't have to visit a 100 websites to get what you want and delivery can be done automatically at a specific time or manually at the push of a button if you desire. If you are interested in a site and you visit that site to see if something is new and nothing is new; you just wasted your time! Furthermore; you might forget to visit a site. Everyone arguing against this does not use it, so don't say anything unless you are familiar with what you are talking about.

It's like the people who hate sushi and never even tried it. You shouldn't dislike something you never have tried.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: braincell on 2005-09-21 18:12 ]</font>

I think suggesting changes is always a positive thing, but I also think we should ask before saying how things should be. We do not own the site and work to keep it clean and organized; this is John Cooper unselfish work. We should have a little more respect for his work and likes perhaps, and also use a better way of speaking when proposing changes.

I don’t know if this would be good or not for the Z, the point for me is to start a conversation in a way you give the owner the chance to answer without compromising.

imho the discussion isn't urging someone into something and as such it's perfectly ok.
may be the title of the thread reads a little provocative, but why shouldn't Braincell stick to attentive phrases as anyone else in marketing to promote his idea ?

on the other hand I'm completely against this me is the most important I-dunno-what in the world and you can't miss me pseudo information bs.

it IS bs because of it I know (for example) that a couple of days ago a hunter's dog shot his master in Bulgaria - yeah, the dog triggered the gun when he and his master developed different opinions about the the prey and the hunter (ab)used the gun as tool to beat the dog...

it's really sad for the 3 passengers of a private plane that they crashed in some Brazilian (mexican, swiss...) mountain - but is it relevant for me ?

there's a philosophy (or is it an idustry*** ?) behind this constant suggestion you might miss the most important fact for the rest of your life - it starts to become annoying...
***[edit: I won't correct the typo as proof how easily one can become a victim of the i-hype, even subconsciously... ]

one should actively choose one's information and entertainment sources imho - if you feel you don't have the time (and need the afforementioned 'tools') something's running in the wrong direction

it's not the point that you visit a site in vain because you expected a whatsoever update - what's wrong is the fact that you were looking for the change at all - instead of doing your own sh*t.
It distracts focus - at least according to my humble experiences since I use to browse a news headlines collection more or less on a regular base. Superinformed but clueless

cheers, Tom

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2005-09-21 20:33 ]</font>