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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:59 pm
by braincell
Out of respect, when someone famous dies. You are not allowed to say bad things about that person in the media. When Reagan died there was a media blitz about what a great president he was. I don't understand why dying elevates a man to sainthood.

Luther Vandros died recently. I keep hearing how great he was. HIs music was bad.



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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:31 pm
by wayne
You're allowed to say bad things if you want to, braincell :smile:

Isn't it to reduce the pain of those left behind, initially?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:52 am
by hubird
He leaves to cherish and celebrate his life, legacy, and wonderful memories a loving and devoted mother, Mary Ida Vandross, nine nieces as well as eight great nephews, three great nieces and a circle of close friends and colleagues, his musical family and millions of loyal, supportive fans.

as said on http://www.luthervandross.com/

Not only Vandross is great, also his nephews and nieces are great, and they even didn't die already :grin:

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:17 am
by MikeRaphone
Hmm, but he was a good vocalist, and even "bad" music can make people feel good, and personally i prefer a slowbeat love ballad over a bomb in the bus, no matter how cheesy or greasy it sounds.

Peace Yo

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:54 am
by braincell
I suppose he deserves some credit for not bombing anybody.

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:08 am
by Immanuel
:razz:

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:32 pm
by hubird
all those nephews and nieces...I don't know, check the ones that turned to be moslem and work in a F$S shop...

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:53 pm
by garyb
in his family, his music is the best.
at least he was about people being good to each other, not just sex. not my favorite...but the top of his feild. if your name is shortened so there is just one, madonna,liz,michael,ringo or LUTHER, and people know WHICH one is being named, you gotta give props. savior of mankind? not likely. saint? hahaha... idol to bow down to? don't be silly......there's one thing that you have to give the guy, he had an amazing voice. if you don't like his style, ok, it doesn't matter, all styles are ridiculous. he had a good sounding voice, very smooth. there is a style that demands that, and he was the epitome of it for our time.

don't playa hate.

but i don't mind if you saying that someone was bad if they were. but personally, i don't thing it's great to tell about any bad things just to be mean.

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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:20 pm
by rodos1979
I dont know anything about the particular singer.. I ll just paraphrase a bit of Voltaire:
the alive deserve respect... the dead deserve the truth!

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:35 pm
by paulrmartin
What good thing might you say when Charles Manson will die?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:16 pm
by hubird
the alive deserve respect...Charles Manson deserves the death?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:28 pm
by braincell
For some reason this reminds me of what the pro life people say about abortion:

"If you have an abortion you could be killing the next Albert Einstein"

My thoughts about that are that you could be preventing the next Hitler!

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:35 am
by MikeRaphone
Ehmmm, guys we can't have abortion. BTW are there any ladies on this forum?

Just wandering :smile:

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:17 am
by narly
On 2005-07-15 20:28, braincell wrote:
...you could be preventing the next Hitler!
Better yet, why become pregnant in the first place if you're worried about spawning such evil? :smile:

I think we can agree that's an apt description for Hitler...


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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:05 am
by braincell
Most religions and society encourage people to spawn.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:37 am
by narly
???

Confusion - religious (spiritual) or human (secular?) basis for our actions?

???

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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:54 am
by garyb
On 2005-07-16 09:05, braincell wrote:
Most religions and society encourage people to spawn.
not the new ones............

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:47 pm
by paulrmartin
All this polemic around Luther VanDross...

I don't think he ever thought he'd inspire this type of exchange.

:lol:

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:34 pm
by garyb
oh no?
:grin:

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:24 pm
by emzee
How do you define "bad" music? Is that music you don't personally like....... or you don't personally feel has artistic merit.......

Doesn't matter what the music is .... some will like/loathe it.