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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:32 am
by huffcw
Hello,
yes, we have allready sold many ASB boxes.
These boxes are built with the latest 200 Mhz Sharc´s which are provoding ultimative DSP calculating power.
We allready managed to compilate our SCOPE software for these brandnew DSPs, so I can tell you allready that new SCOPE hardware with the latest and fastest Sharc DSPs will be available in future.
Sorry, I can´t give release date by now.
mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards
CreamWare Service Team
info@creamware.de
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:12 am
by next to nothing
wow!!!
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:48 am
by voidar
Cool. I hope we'll be able to exchange our old cards for the new ones for a given price when these are out.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:40 am
by jabney
hi Voidar,
You said, "I hope we'll be able to exchange our old cards for the new ones for a given price when these are out."
As long as I can use all - or even the vast majority - of my existing devices on the new hardware, I'll be OK.
An official CreamWare trade-in program would be nice, but doesn't having access to ebay constitute a trade-in program these days?
best,
John
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:17 am
by Shayne White
OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:30 am
by darkrezin
I'm bracing myself for all the threads with subjects like:
'Why aren't the new cards out yet?! I demand my new toys right this minute!'
Seriously though, good news and let's hope CW sales don't die completely as people anticipate the new stuff.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:04 am
by huffcw
No release date means it may be a ways down the road still before new cards will actually happen. This is really just a confirmation that they are working in that direction - and the company is in a healthy state at the moment. The fact that the new boxes are selling well is very good news.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:09 pm
by Music Manic
Excellent news!
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:10 pm
by blazesboylan
*wipes drool off chin*
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:53 pm
by Shayne White
Yes, I know exactly why they're doing well. Picking up a 6-voice, MIDI-compatible "MiniMoog" for $800-900 is an awesome deal. Compare MiniMoog Voyager for 1 voice at over $2k. Yes, the analog version will sound *slightly* better, but not enough to matter in the real world.
Noah was just too expensive for a rack box with only a couple of knobs that you had to plug into a computer to actually use. Nice idea, but dumb. The ASB boxes are much better; far more marketable. There's no reason they shouldn't sell a ton of them.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:04 pm
by darkrezin
Yep... as always happens with hardware synths, the price starts to come down a bit as more retailers compete with each other. I think it will be tempting a lot of people (reaction to these boxes was very good on pretty much all forums I watch).
There's enough people buying mediocre stuff like Korg MS2000 etc to make something like the ASB boxes pretty enticing, considering they sound a whole lot better and in many ways are probably a lot more easy to use:
- no menus
- knobs for virtually all functions
This stuff means a lot to people who like live, hands-on instruments!
(I'm hoping in the future there might be versions with more outs and multi-timbral operation... that really would be killer)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:31 pm
by Billy goat gruff
Forgive my dumbass but how many Mhz are the present DSP's again?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:06 pm
by wayne
60
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:00 am
by ChampionSound
Wow! Absolutely great!
I hope the new cards will be compatible with the current cards in SFP as well.
And wouldn't it be cool if the new cards have memory slots as well to install optional memory? It might be cool for future samplers in SFP to avoid the phase issue of the current STS series if the card has its own memory. I dont know if I'm talking rubbish here, mayby it isn't technically possible at all

But the 3.3 times faster DSP's are a great leap forward anyway! Good job Creamware!
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:01 am
by Lima
[200 Mhz]
Good news, indeed!
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:32 am
by AndreD
On 2005-07-12 02:00, ChampionSound wrote:
Wow! Absolutely great!
I hope the new cards will be compatible with the current cards in SFP as well.
sorry but there will be no new scope "card" in near future!
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:52 am
by ChampionSound
Don't need to say sorry Andre

If the new hardware will be built in an external box or so, then that's ok with me. I just couldn't make up out of this story that the new hardware won't be a card anymore. But a Scope Box with USB or firewire connection means even more flexibility!

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:58 am
by AndreD
for the moment, it is´nt even shure what kind of connection, so stay cool and make music!
</b>whatever there will come, it WILL NOT _replace_ your pci-cards in near future</b>
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:01 am
by ChampionSound
Yup I agree

That's what people should keep doing anyway, keep on making music. Instead of "complaining" about upgrades all the time

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:49 am
by Grok
On 2005-07-12 03:52, ChampionSound wrote:
(...)
But a Scope Box with USB or firewire connection means even more flexibility!
Firewire
yes, USB
no...
Too much softwares protection dongles on USB ports, too much realtime issues... Firewire is better suited for realtime (and the video guys have already tested it...)
If CW could solve these topics:
- the ability to
"freeze" Scope synths & plugins
- enough onboard RAM to not use the PC's RAM for FX processing (especially for huges reverbs)
-
the ability to use Scala's microtuning files and Just Intonation for every Scope Synths
- attractive power/price ratio compared to native stuffs
...then a new Scope hardware with these qualities and the qualities of the current cards could have its chances
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