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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:14 am
by darkstar
Hello,
As I don't know much about routing,please can somebody help me here.I saw yesterday CW in action in local studio,but they have pulsar and luna there,so I can't use their project for my needs.Here is what I want to do:

GUys from studio mix in SCOPE,not in CUBASE(logic in their case).They told me that sound is better when you mix in scope,and then route that signal back to cubase/logic/any sequencer.So,can somebody tell me,or send me project that do that?How to make it work?Is it possible to route every single channel from cubase to mix and then send it back to cubase,but still I want to use my favourite vst plugins in cubase?I saw recently that some guys from planetz talked about this,but I don't have much knowledge to make it work.So,please,can somebody help me on this?

Please bear in mind that I have LUNA 2,and just 3 dsp,I don't have any cw synths.

Thanks,
Best regards

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:56 am
by fidox
i'm sure you'll get better explanation than mine, but i usually:
in sfp:
load ASIO source module (i use ASIO 2 24bit), then you can choose how many channels you want to use with (i'm using 15 channels),connect to sfp mixer,
then in cubase in my case , i have version 5.0 enable ASIO inputs, so every channel can use different ASIO output,
for example:
channel 1 - ASIO output 1 and so on....

then i connect in sfp - ASIO destination modul to sfp mixer's main output and record in cubase into wav file,

i'm weak in mastering, but i'm getting great results :smile:


that's in the meantime, while you're waiting for some better answer than mine, cause i'm not big expert "yet" :smile:



matej

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:03 am
by fidox
i'm sure you'll get better explanation than mine, but i usually:
in sfp:
load ASIO source module (i use ASIO 2 24bit), then you can choose how many channels you want to use with (i'm using 15 channels),connect to sfp mixer,
then in cubase in my case , i have version 5.0 enable ASIO inputs, so every channel can use different ASIO output,
for example:
channel 1 - ASIO output 1 and so on....

then i connect in sfp - ASIO destination modul to sfp mixer's main output and record in cubase into wav file,

i'm weak in mastering, but i'm getting great results :smile:


that's in the meantime, while you're waiting for some better answer than mine, cause i'm not big expert "yet" :smile:



matej

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:36 pm
by darkstar
Hello,
here is a screenshot of my project - http://www.mirkosukovic.com/basicproject.jpg

I will try thing you recommended to me,but still I can't understand why in cubase I have that inputs are 16 bit and outputs 16 bits ... how can I get 24 bits (I changed it in Cubase - recording on 24 bits)

Thanks,
Best regards

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:03 pm
by garyb
be sure that your cubase project is set for 24bit. cubase reports bit depth improperly sometimes.

remember that you can change that routing at any time to suit your needs. don't be afraid...

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:52 pm
by arela
Cubase sx > Project > Project Setup
...choose sample rate, record format etc

Your project allows 6 different OUT's from cubase,
For every cubase track, choose witch og these out's you want.
I use OUT 1 for drums (sometimes several tracks)
Out 2 for basses

You need to open this OUT's in Cubase:
Device > VST Connection >> add bus

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 3:23 pm
by darkstar
Okay,I did everything and get the sound from cubase in mixer.
But,how do I route back this signal to Cubase and how can I record it.Can I use "export audio" option,or I must record signal on individual track.And how can I use more than 2 CW effect(because that much I have to use on each channel).
If someone have project that can help me understand this,it would be great to see it.

Thanks,
Best regards

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:55 pm
by alfonso
To record the overall mix to a track connect Mix out to an Asio pair.

You can have several Asio destinations going to cubase, as in your project above, you can dedicate each one to a particular sound source, analog in, mix out etc, so you select in cubase the proper input to record a mix or an instrument. With your mixer you get the direct outs from the channels of the sources like analog source,z-link source, wave source or whatever and the mixer general out.

It doesn't make much sense to send individual Asio sources channels back to cubase.

If you work at 32bits float with cubase, use the ASIO-flt modules better.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 3:47 am
by arela
hi
You can also use one or more fx between
ASIO dest and the mixer
>ASIO DEST - FX1 - FX2 - MIXER IN

and/or
send mix signal back to a new channel
>ASIO DEST
- MIXER IN (Chn1) (with fx's)
- MIXER OUT (Chn1)
- MIXER IN (Chn2) (new fx's)
- MIXER OUT (Chn2)
....and so on.....

and/or
use more than one mixer

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 am
by fidox
i want to send you some pictures of my default project setup, but my email doesn't work today,
maybe if i can upload you somewhere ?



matej

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:31 am
by andrew
Hi -

I want to do my mixing in scope as per this thread.

Thing is my last remix had 55 tracks of audio (30 tracks in the original and i added another 25). I mixed this in logic, with a few extra outputs to an ER in scope and an spdif loop via scope thru to my tc electronics hardware. All of this went through a few inputs in the stm1632, along with sound from the wave 1&2 modules (where sound forge comes thru - good for editing without having to shut logic down) and the scope analog source.

I have the scope board (15 dsps) with both of the mixer packages which i've bought as an investment, so I have the stm 4896 to play with. I wanted to see if any of the more experienced scope users had any comments on my proposed set up for my next and futher projects to mix in scope and get the most out of my environment. I want to be able to mix upward of 50 or 60 channels in scope :smile:

looking at the stm4896 I think I should possibly use one or two of these with their mix outputs routed into channels on a master mixer, (suggestions for this?). Into the master mixer i can also route the wave 1&2 modules and the scope analog source.
The mix L&R from the master mixer are then fed into the inputs of the scope analog destination

is this the best way to do this? or are their better ways?

Thanks in advance

Andrew