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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:38 am
by hubird
Is there any chance that TFT monitors will see a price fall in the next future, say two or three months?
Like happened in october last year, after a new production fabric (by?) was started.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:53 pm
by samplaire
Yes
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:58 pm
by Zer
If you know Aldi...they sold 17" last week for about 99 Euros and 19" for about 199 Euros.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:17 pm
by hubird
On 2005-03-16 12:53, samplaire wrote:
Yes

Thanks Sam, I believe you blindly, but if you know a site where it is documented, I would be pleased
Zer, I know Aldi, I got my hands on a set of cheap skates some time ago
But I have an eye on (digital/analog) ViewSonic PB191S, specially as they are designed for multiple display configuration.
Small bezel, and even an (optional) single stand for head-only models (no base).
http://www.ViewSonic.com/products/deskt ... es/vp191s/
http://www.ViewSonic.com/multipanelsetup/
edit: oh, thanks Stardust, at least I will wait a few weeks
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:22 pm
by Immanuel
unless you want them on top of each other (hardly very ergonomically), then I personally have a hard time seeing the benefit with this particular monitor. It is mainly your graphics card needing to be multimonitor capable.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:22 pm
by Stubbe
I think the prices are dropping slowly all the time, Here in Denmark it is quite easy to keep an eye on the prices on
http://www.edbpriser.dk (sorry only in danish, this is just an example), I guess that similar services exist all over.
If you go to
this page, you will see a graph going 8 weeks back (bottom of the page, uge = week) showing that the price for the Viewsonic has not dropped significantly, apart from one week, after which the price recovered.
You might want to check out Samsung or LG displays, they are running a very hard pricewar on each other ATM, driving down the cost,
example here is a totally randomly chosen 19". It has dropped something like 20% in 8 weeks !
It's quite amazing, but I read somewhere that this page, more or less alone, had forced the competition on computer parts to such a degree, that Denmark - which is in almost every other aspect an expensive country - now have some of the lowest computerparts prices in Europe. Worth a thought if it's true
Personally, I have fallen in love with Apple's 23" widescreen (dropped a respectable 20% in early january), an impossible love maybe, but yummy it looks good !
Good hunt!
Stubbe
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:03 pm
by samplaire
On 2005-03-16 14:17, hubird wrote:

Thanks Sam, I believe you blindly, but if you know a site where it is documented, I would be pleased
Here you are 
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:09 pm
by BingoTheClowno
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:23 pm
by hubird
@Immanuel, I could spare a €100,- by choosing an other comparable brand, the differences are mainly weight, physical depth, and bezel.
The single stand does the looks, btw - I love the free space on the shelf
@Stubbe, lucky position you have

For Several months now my favorite ViewSonic is priced about €5o8,-.
I didn't follow other TFT's, so thanks for your reseach
Looks hopefully.
Time is on my side, I believe
I was checking for a technological or market bound reason for a sudden new pricefall.
You know that feeling, when you buy something and one day later you find it back in the sales corner?
That's what I don't wanne do to myself
@Sam,

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:48 am
by Stubbe
For Several months now my favorite ViewSonic is priced about €5o8,-.
Actually, that is not a bad price at all, here it would cost appr. €550 incl. freight from a shop I would trust.
Good luck!
Stubbe
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:46 am
by hubird
MSRP is €559,-, according to ViewSonicdotcom.
So I consider the €508,- (excl. freight of €30,- outside Germany) not as a bargain
This is where I saw the €508,- price setting:
http://www.mindfactory.de/
(it's huge, 20.000 user online is quite normal).
Monitors are booked in 'peripherie', just to let you know.
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:32 pm
by astroman
ALDI s*cks
but I like mom Albrecht's statement ...the worse it gets for people, the more money we make...

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:06 am
by Zer
I dunno and I don' t like the statement - I mean I´m a worker in germany I don`t wanna have an imported us-system without a given minimum salary, polish income and no payable insurances. For americans it seems always that I`m some sort of communist
But they have the cheapest TFT`s in store.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:04 pm
by astroman
then, what's the problem ?
buy their 'cheapest monitors' - and accept that employers buy manpower for cheapest wages...
it's that simple, Tom
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:02 pm
by hubird
not exactly, Astro, there's more

In Holland the union made a dossier of several meters, all concerning severe complaints of employers, local managers included.
Aldi has been judged several times already.
The owners, never showing themselves or reacting to anything in public, manage the firm like old style capitalists.
The law is the only frontier, and they wait and let
you prove you're right...
But I went back to this thread, to tell you that I earned 2 times € 26,- by not buying sofar
I wonder what would have been the price if the SonicVision TFT's were European instead of from USA...
They're still my choice however, so sad the optional single multi-monitor stand costs 265,- USdollar...
And I believe the 'head-only's' aren't cheaper than the stand models.
cheers.
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:25 am
by astroman
recently my PC seller heavily complained about eyestress from a cheapo TFT, it was a Phillips (ouch...)

They try them out themselves when new models appear.
I have a 17" IIyama 431S which I consider a solid performer, but definetely not as good as the original Apple 17" Studio Display (which we have in the office).
If the difference justifies double the price is up to personal prefs, at least it's very obvious and not marginally.
btw that
accept that employers buy manpower for cheapest wages... wasn't targeted at ALDI, it was directed at ALDI customers who complain about cheap foreign workers
cheers, Tom
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:41 am
by garyb
just got an offer from global computers of a $147us 17".....
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:06 am
by hubird
@Astro, I also have a Philips (but 17# CRT), at my pc, and it's terrible, you can experience those interference 'waves' on the screen

I should not have bought it!
BTW, I took you wrong indeed, about the Aldi thing
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:12 am
by BingoTheClowno
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:01 pm
by hubird
all 19" TFT below €300,- there.
quite cheap indeed.
Anyone knows if these models offer the same longterm quality?
What about fallout of screen transistors?
Or is it just a thing of low wages etc.?
Hard questions probably, who knows much of this part of the market, sigh
