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Posted: **Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:21 pm**

MidiToolBoxa collection of devices for scope and modular for processing midi signalsThe MidiToolBox is available for 89,- € key features :- all devices can be renamed so they show the given name in the routing window - some devices are savable as new device - preset name on the surface - dedicated to midi processing
Get it <a href="https://secure.shareit.com/shareit/cart ... ont> The toolbox contains :for scope:<table width="100%" height="145" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td width="20%" height="18">MultiControl</td><td width="80%">control up to eight controls with one knob via midi</td></tr><tr><td height="18">MidiChord</td><td>outputs up to seven transposed midi notes</td></tr><tr><td height="18">MidiHarmonizer</td><td>outputs up to seven transposed midi notes in harmonic context</td></tr><tr><td height="18">MidiTransformer</td><td>transforms midi notes and midi control messages</td></tr><tr><td height="18">LFO2Control</td><td>sends LFOed midi control messages</td></tr><tr><td height="18">Audio2Control</td><td>converts the level of an audio signal to midi controller messages</td></tr><tr><td height="18">PanicButton</td><td>sends midi note off for all notes on a dedicated channel</td></tr><tr><td height="19">Midi On/Off </td><td>this one is midi controllable</td></tr></table>some devices come in different flavours. for the modular:<table align="center" width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="20%">val2note</td><td width="80%">sends midi notes out of modular</td></tr><tr><td>val2control</td><td>sends midi controller messages out of modular</td></tr><tr><td>audio2val</td><td>converts the level of an audio signal to values</td></tr><tr><td>sync2async</td><td>converts sync signals to async signals (very helpful, if you get the "cannot connect converter pads" alert)</td></tr></table> for more detailed explanations please download the manual :<a href="http://www.worldless.mine.nu/cgi-bin/dl ... pdf">download manual</a><a href="http://www.worldless.mine.nu/cgi-bin/dl ... </a>To give an idea what is possible e.g. with the MidiHarmonizer and MultiControl, I've put up a small rave sequence, played by one key pressed down and a knob.<a href="http://www.worldless.mine.nu/cgi-bin/dl ... .mp3">demo song</a> (2 MB) the demo song is played with one key held down and a knob Setup: StepSequencer -> MidiHarmonizer -> MultiControl -> MiniMaxpics from some of
the Scope Modules :<script language="JavaScript">function klein(bild) {newWin = window.open("http://www.worldless.com/sfp/bild.html?" + bild, "fenstername","scrollbars=0,toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0,resizable=0,width=800,height=550");}</script><a href="javascript:klein('mtb_all.jpg')"><img src="http://worldless.com/sfp/pics/mtb_small.jpg" width="500" height="344" border="0"></a> (click on the pic to enlarge)pics of Modular Modules <img src="http://worldless.com/sfp/pics/mtb_mod_all.jpg" width="249" height="239" border="0"><script language="JavaScript">function klein(bild) {newWin = window.open("http://worldless.com/sfp/bild.html?" + bild, "fenstername", "scrollbars=0,toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0,resizable=0,width=1080,height=730");}</script> <a href="javascript:klein('mtb_modular.jpg')"><img src="http://worldless.com/sfp/pics/mtb_modular_small.jpg" width="500" height="334" border="0"></a> (click on the pic to view original size) kind regards Wolfgang
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[ This Message was edited by: wolf on 2005-03-12 16:38 ]

Posted: **Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:01 pm**

what a coinsidence! i was actually logging on to request a device like Audio2Control! thanks, ill save up

oh, and;

val2note sends midi notes out of modular
val2control sends midi controller messages out of modular

this means i can make controllers for my external bitch-to-control HW synths like my elka? SWEEEET!!!

[ This Message was edited by: piddi on 2005-03-12 22:13 ]

Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:27 am**

looks very nice... but i think you need to setup some kind of bundle promotion

Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:07 am**

excellent!

Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:34 am**

It looks fantastic...but I don't have any money!!

Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:21 pm**

Does this mean that you can use 'val2note' to convert a monophonic input signal to midi using a pitch tracker output connected to 'val2note' ?

If that works I'm sold! Rock On!

All we need now is a demo version !?

[ This Message was edited by: stebzilla on 2005-03-13 19:22 ]

Posted: **Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:52 am**

@all:
thanks for all the nice comments

@borg:
So far this is already a "bundle" in the kind of several devices collected together. Or do you mean bundling with eg. the StepSequencer ?

@stepzilla:
yes, you can connect any unipolar signal to the Val-Input of val2note. This can be a pitch tracker, a LFO or anything else. There are endless possibilities within modular.
Same is true for val2control.

mh, demo .. yes .. the problem is, that it is too much work to supply a demo mechanism to all devices regarding the number of them.
So here goes my question: which (two or three) of the devices/modules would you prefer to demo ?

kind regards
Wolfgang

Posted: **Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:08 pm**

does it support also aftertouch or 'only' regular CCs ?
If it does, you've sold one

... and it would be nice if the midi note filter would be unsharp, i.e. a range of notes

cheers, Tom

Posted: **Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:28 am**

> does it support also aftertouch or 'only' regular CCs ?

most devices (where it makes sense) pass through aftertouch messages (and pitch bend). But I'm shure you didn't mean that.
How would you like to see it implemented ? And in which devices ?

> ... and it would be nice if the midi note filter would be unsharp, i.e. a range of notes

the transformer has differerent operation modes:
• filter matching note
• let matching note pass through
• convert note - filter other events
• convert note - let pass other events
• convert controller - filter other controllers
• convert note to control - filter other events

I could implement a range for notes input filter easily, but currently I'm only able to send out one event at a time, so all incoming notes meeting the filter condition would be transformed to the same output event.

kind regards
Wolfgang

Posted: **Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:42 pm**

thanks for the reply, Wolf

I'd like to assign aftertouch to one of the big knobs of Multicontrol and distribute it to various controllers with different 'intensities' as the description suggests.

It would be perfectly okay if the 'range note filter' would capture just a single note event on a channel.
That way one could assign a range of low notes for one destination and a range of high notes for another one.
Or any note on a channel triggers a defined event - at least I've never found this functionality anywhere.

cheers, Tom

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:46 am**

I'd like to assign aftertouch to one of the big knobs of Multicontrol and distribute it to various controllers with different 'intensities' as the description suggests.

Possible to implement, but'll take some time

It would be perfectly okay if the 'range note filter' would capture just a single note event on a channel.

Do you mean capturing a range of keys and convert this range to one note/contr ? This can be implemented as well, if wanted.

That way one could assign a range of low notes for one destination and a range of high notes for another one.

This already is possible, as there is the midi key splitter from Creamware. Just connect the ouputs to two transformers.
But perhaps I misunderstood you in what you want to achieve

Or any note on a channel triggers a defined event - at least I've never found this functionality anywhere.

this could result in a terrific surface (in all senses) as there are 128 note messages, which all need parameters. Think of loading 128 MidiTransformers and switching between them.
Of course you could do that to a given extend by renaming / saving some MidiTransformers with needed settings

But .. again .. perhaps I simply misunderstood, what you mean.

kind regards
Wolfgang

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:17 am**

...
Or any note on a channel triggers a defined event - at least I've never found this functionality anywhere.
this could result in a terrific surface (in all senses) as there are 128 note messages, which all need parameters.
...

you've understood all perfectly right, except the last one

'any note' means that whatever note number a single event has, it will always be converted to a (say) D2 (or whatever note is choosen).

thanks, Tom

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:44 pm**

you've understood all perfectly right, except the last one
'any note' means that whatever note number a single event has, it will always be converted to a (say) D2 (or whatever note is choosen).

ah, ok .. no problem to implement .. well, beside the time needed for it.

Thanks for the suggestions !

best
Wolfgang

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:20 pm**

thanks a lot - I will order whatever is available around the 20th.
No need to hurry, it's enough to know that you will extend the afforementioned functions in the near future.

cheers, Tom

Posted: **Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:44 am**

.. done

changes:

MultiControl:
- pitchbend and channel aftertouch messages beside controller assignment possible as input source
- switch for each output to send out controller or channel aftertouch

MidiTransformer:
new version, which can process notes, note range, controller messages, channel and key aftertouch, pitch bend and program changes on the input and transforms it to note (off), controller messages, channel and key aftertouch messages, pitch bend messages or program changes.

If anyone has an additional idea or enhancement requests, don't hesitate ..

kind regards
Wolfgang

Posted: **Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:38 am**

Hi,

forgot to mention: an updated manual is available as well, please redownload.

Some other stuff:
- I decided to add a 16 StepSequencer with very low dsp usage to the package. The price of the bundle will stay the same !!
- I'll offer a bundle with my 32 StepSequencer, however I'm not shure about the pricing yet.
- I'm still waiting for some suggestions, which devices of the package you prefer to demo

kind regards
Wolfgang

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[ This Message was edited by: wolf on 2005-03-23 08:40 ]

Posted: **Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:42 am**

/me drooling

Very nice kit, wolf, that seq sure makes the cherry on the pie eh

Is there a way to do freq2val or note2val? This would make excellent pitch tracking for KarpStrong using moddelay

(listen here, too bad the pitch tracking doesn't work properly.

I'm sorry but you opened some gates here, eh!

at0m.

Posted: **Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:27 pm**

Hi at0m,

I'm sorry but you opened some gates here, eh!

no prob, that was my intention

reg. freq2val and note2val, this is already available in some manner. The usual MVC module sends out sync and async values for incoming notes and then there's flexors Pitch2CV.
The cause, that it's not working properly for you is that you seem to use async signals somewhere in your signal chain.

kind regards
Wolfgang

Posted: **Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:51 am**

ok, will do ..

Posted: **Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:07 pm**

My vote is still in for val2note and val2control...

Thanks!

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