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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:13 pm
by hubird
This file has expired and is no longer available here. The owner of the topic can re-upload the file, or post a link to an off-site file. <BR><BR><a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Trance<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Effects,Pulsar Mixers,Pulsar Synths<BR> copyright ©begga<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> Not my best track I think, can't get it better anyway
Two times Minimax, one a filtered lead and the other a filtered organ sound.
The Virus does the bass and the filtered midbass.
The choirslike 'string' sounds are a combination of FM7 and Absynth.
In the mastering I used the Optimaster compressor for the first time.
I think this thing is great!
If you feed the Wizzart with a main and a break part in sequencer cycle mode, you get a very nice balance between the two extreme parts.
The Compressor window shows the threshhold for the three frequency bands.
If you change the threshold level (easyly in the graphics), you can determin the color and the volume of the bands precisely.
If the Low band according to the Wizzard did loose too much lows, you can wonderfull repair this by moving the threshold level about 2db upward, you can hear what happens on the fly.
I'm happy with the thing, tho I stayed with the Waves L1+ for the limiting and dithering part
I hope you enjoy somehow
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:47 pm
by wayne
Like this,hubird - a relentless tour-de-filter
and yes, optimaster is easy to use & sounds great
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:02 pm
by Basic Pitch
1st let me just say:
Ok, thats better! Cool track, its got a nice tribal sort of feeling, is there a female vocal filtered I hear, something in there sounds really cool like vocal edit of something, also really like those reverse kicks? lots of quick little edit stabs, good stuff, I myself always get way to lazy when it comes to the small details that make the track, I can say it seems you took yer time with all those little fills.
I like it
Cheers!
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:37 am
by hubird
thanks Wayne and Basic

No vocal sample it is, it was the Absynth if I'm right.
I like to mark the switches in the arrangement with fills, tho in the end the most of them get thrown out again

(thanks for the smilies hehe

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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:43 pm
by nprime
sounds great, some really nice sounds in there.
well done!
R
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:39 pm
by braincell
Lots of great ideas and well put together.
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:28 am
by Counterparts
I thought that was bloody excellent!
For my 1.5p, better than your 'Genuanh' track, which I felt suffered from a lack of clarity and crispness (perhaps too much 'verb on that track...did you use any on the low-frequency sounds at all?)
Would be very interested in what you used for the drum sounds...source & processing.
Royston
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:05 am
by hubird
thanks guys

@Counterparts:
I started with a drumloop, as usual.
By loading it in Phatmatic Pro (slice editor) I got midi parts of every element of it.
later I exchanged the sounds of the loop by others, more fitting to the song, added some other small drum elements like hats and a snare roll loop, and did midi edits.
The drum and fx fills come from my sample cd library, don't ask from what exactly, I lost track of that
The Genuanh track was intended to sound 'big' somehow, but the creation process of that song took so many pathes that we almost lost track, and dr Phill (Spector) didn't want to help

Oh yeah, I always take care with reverbering the lows, so that was definitely not the case

Thanks for comment everybody.
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:33 pm
by Liquid EDGE
cool.
um when the kick first stutters it sounded out of time /wrong to me.
plus me personaly i would keep the punch snare straight early on in the track. no chi ka ka cha. until the loops come in
bar those two things three thumbs up, nice sounds and clarity. in fact a wicked track. get the beans.
Keep Rollin'
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:56 pm
by hubird
thanks Liquid, could you do me a favour and explain exactly what you say about the 'punchy snare'?
Where would you like to get 'm coming in, or going on? you could use minute/seconds numbers

To clear it up: there is a 'snare roll' loop (every 16th note) which I pitch bent a bit, there's a clap, and there are snarelike loose accents.
I guess you're aiming at the snare roll loop?
thanks
ps. the stuttering bassdrum momentum is there, that's right, the introducing 'tape reverse' fill is debet to that effect too.
I found it functional, as it is a decent moment for a dj to take away the last track and throw this one in completely.
In the same way the endpartafter the beats end, with after a whyle just a dark hooked combination of two Minimaxes should seduce the dj to mix-in not before the beginning of that end part.
With some new beats from there on he has the full frequency spectrum during the tracks crossing time.
Wishfull thinking
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:37 pm
by garyb
master trancer....
i liked the breakdown at about 2:00...
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 7:11 pm
by hubird
thanks Gary
Though I'd like to change 'master' to 'disciple'.
Last year I visited some nice Psy trance - Goa festivals, like Wonderland/Germany last weekend
The current song started with that atmosphere in my mind, but I took 138 BPM instead of 145 which is usual.
I shouldn't have done that, and no way I'm gonne do all those bounces over again to change the tempo
Having said that, I concider this song as failed, because on the road I lost the feeling for the 'hammering' power of those two music styles.
In other words, it lacks styling, and without styling no credibility.
and I don't think I invited a fucking new style

Anyway, I learned a lot, tho I'd like to make a real party song after all those mid tempo groove things I've made the last years (for one time:
http://www.ezsound.nl).
At the moment I'm working on a nice song together with a young computer musicion, he will keep me on the road

Yet groove again...
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