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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:53 am
by musurgio
I have tried to audition both and I hear that 1632 sounds a little cleaner than 2448/4896 , anyone else sharing same thoughts ?
Dimitrios
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:23 am
by Stige
I noticed the same thing... But then buried that thought as a bull$hit. Interesting that I'm not alone.
Has anyone compared that old blue mixer to the 2448/1632? By the way, where could I get (d/l)the Blue mixer? I only have it as pink, but that looks too agressive to my eyes.
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:35 am
by Ricardo
I might have it somewhere. I'll have to rumage through some of my backups. Let you know!
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:14 am
by Stige
On 2004-06-29 10:35, Ricardo wrote:
I might have it somewhere. I'll have to rumage through some of my backups. Let you know!
Hi Ricardo, thanks I'd appreciate that

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:38 pm
by interloper
I've got the blue BigMixer. Send me an email and I'll send it to anyone that wants it.
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:06 pm
by at0m
The BugMixer is unbearable in your collection. If only for its graphics memory usage: 12MB per 8channel panel, plus 8MB per Bus panel

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:33 am
by Stige
On 2004-06-29 23:06, at0m|c wrote:
The BugMixer is unbearable in your collection. If only for its graphics memory usage: 12MB per 8channel panel, plus 8MB per Bus panel
Sounds great! I want it now
But back to the topic.. I made a little test with some acoustic drum tracks. Used 16 Asio channels to feed 2448 and 1632 at the same time. Both mixers had all faders at 0dB, no panning as I used stereo channels. Also phase comp. was on. I used 'Switch it' module to compare both mixers continuously.
It was late night when I did this test, so didn't sell my soul for it. I didn't hear any difference. Both mixer had equally dynamic and open sound. Then I inverted the output from 1632 and summed both mixers together. They cancelled eachother almost perfectly. The difference was below -100dB.
so, my conclusion is that with low track counts there is no difference. But I think this test should have been done with more tracks and instruments at the same time.
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:18 am
by samplaire
Well done Stige

The summing/cancelation of signals
is a very good test method, IMHO

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:30 am
by interloper
Hehe, BugMixer. I like that name.
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:32 pm
by blazesboylan
On 2004-06-30 06:33, Stige wrote:
Then I inverted the output from 1632 and summed both mixers together. They cancelled eachother almost perfectly.
Brilliant!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:10 pm
by Plato
Cool - this was a question niggling away in the back of my mind - thanks for resolving it....I wonder how the micro-mixer compares?
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:57 am
by AndreD
On 2004-06-29 23:06, at0m|c wrote:
The BugMixer is unbearable in your collection. If only for its graphics memory usage: 12MB per 8channel panel, plus 8MB per Bus panel
...moreover, the bm has real phase-problems on stereo-signlas..
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:28 am
by astroman
yeah, but why bother ?
...reminds me on the old SBLive card which had a similiar design flaw on the front channels - over YEARS not one SINGLE review noticed it.
That said about reviews...
cheers, Tom