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Hello all....

Man I have had a rough couple of days. I've been trying trying TRYING to get my CW cards to play nice with Cubase SX.

I've done everything I can think of....BIOS checks, disabled HT, removed USB MIDI stuff.....and I still get random crashes in Cubase.

It seems to be (more often than not) related to trying to use ASIO sends back and forth from Cubase into the Pulsar mixer.

Once I try to do that....the system hangs. I can't even ctrl+alt+del out!

This has been very frustrating. I am ready to just give up on using the system as a comprehensive solution, and go back to Logic on my Mac, with all the CW stuff lightpiped in.

Any suggestions will be most appreciated.

My system:

ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
P4 3.0ghz
2GB DDR400 Samsung RAM (4x512)
Nvidia Geforce FX 5700
Antec True 430W power supply
2x WD 12GB drives
XP Pro
Tweaks from MusicXP.net done.
Onboard sound disabled
HT turned off in BIOS

Pulsar II and SRB (in slots 1 and 5 - sharing same IRQ....with nothing else on this IRQ)

Motu 896 (used as a monitor only -not used in Cubase)

Roland PC-300 USB controller (disabled as it caused MIDI conflicts in Cubase)

Cubase SX 2.2.0

I only have two extra VSTi's installed right now (the CM-101 and Halion 1.1)

Thanks for the suggestions in advance guys .... I'll try ANYTHING to get this working so I didn't waste 1400 on a system just to run SFP.

Cheers

the only time i've seen freezes, midi was involved. the cure? steinberg midex3.

but that wasn't my pc. on my pc, sx is well behaved. buck up! there's a solution. somewhere.(if you don't die of high blood pressire b4 you find it! )

Well you've got a nice system there, and you should be able to achieve flawless operation....I have a similar set-up and it works perfectly.
XP- is it ACPI mode or Standard PC....with my PIV it's far more reliable in Standard mode (although ACPI shouldn't be a cause of crashes in itself);
Have you used the Midi port ignorer in Cubase to get rid of emulated ports?
I take it you're not using Midi Ox or anything similar?
For what it's worth, I don't use the midi in port in Scope for keyboards (but I think that's a peculiarity with my keyboard)...My midi comes through my Yamaha SW1000.

I'd like to add, this set-up is well worth persuing....I'm sure the solution can be found


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Plato on 2004-05-19 04:32 ]</font>

Thanks for the encouragement guys....

I may have found out who the culprit was/is.


My MOTU 896.

You see, I had it installed alongside the CW boards, running AES out of the Pulsar into the MOTU - with the cuemix monitoring set up as a hardware passthrough for the AES inputs.

Well...I was getting frustrated this afternoon and re-configured everything back to my Mac. I unplugged the MOTU from the PC and put it back on the Mac side...and decided to try an experiment.

I opened up Logic on my Mac, set up a stereo record channel (adat in) from the Pulsar.

Used my Mac Midi Interface to send to the Pulsar Midi In.

Started up Cubase and its been running fine....

But....

Basically I have TWO systems running to use it. Cubase on the PC and Logic on the Mac. A convoluted workflow to be sure....but it hasn't crashed yet (knock on wood)....


Oh I also went back into the BIOS and disabled EVERYTHING that I wasn't using (parallel ports, serial ports...you name it.....practically everything is disabled other than onboard USB, Firewire, and PCI).

I'll get it running ......I was just feeling overwhelmed.

Thanks again.

Personally I use both my Creamware cards (10dsp total) in the same machine that I run my sequencing app AND my RME hammerfall+multiface. The RME is ASIO master in my sequencer and I use adat & aes/ebu to route signals back & forth.

Your 896HD has adat and aes/ebu both, so I would suggest using the adat to carry as many channels between the 2 cards as possible and simply control your Creamware devices in SFP4 from your main Cubase machine (or logic?) via midi. You can have the Creamware cards in the same machine and you'll have the benefit of still being able to address them via the OS's midi ports (internal) or just have it in a separate machine and add additional midi i/o to that machine as needed.

Essentially if you have a card like the MOTU that you would prefer to have as your ASIO master there's no reason to use a separate sequencer to control SFP as it is basically a highly modular piece of hardware that happens to use a computer for its GUI.

I meant to say earlier, I have read reports about MOTU interfaces causing real problems in PCs (can't remember which ones though)....maybe it is best to keep it in the Mac ???

From the people I've talked to this has a lot to do with installing the driver before physically installing/connecting the motu hardware. I'm sure the issues would be well documented on MOTU related forums.

Yeah....
I'm just gonna keep it in the Mac.

Oh well...
Now I'll just have to get one of those lovely DAC-1 D/A's for monitoring.