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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 11:41 pm
by JamMusic
do someone know songs or album that became a hit or had succes on radio tv movies all around the world that have been recorded using creamware products?

I would be interrested to here songs of users made the our prefered audio card

is there any links?

thanks jam


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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 2:26 am
by garyb
check the soundtrack of gladiator and the interveiw on the cw site of Eddie King, oh sarcastic one... :wink:

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:04 am
by valis
There are quite a few electronic artists using Creamware cards.

Note the 'Astral Projection' testimonial for Adern's Flexor: http://www.adern.com/products/flexor.htm (flexor requires creamware+modular2/3).

I also know several Drum'n'bass artists that use Creamware cards.

There's quite a few people in the film & tv industry that use them for specific aspects of sound design in their compositions as well (hence the Gladiator reference above).

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:19 am
by garyb
not to mention the nine inch nails connection mentioned on wavelengths site..

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 3:29 am
by inDSP Frank
One current example: in precisely one week from now BMW will launch their world-wide promotion campaign for the new "1" series model.

The "BMW 1 series" song is called "Principle of Joy" and was entirely produced on SCOPE.

Cheers, Frank

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:30 am
by King of Snake
nice one :smile:

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:41 am
by hubird
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 7:03 am
by astroman
Huub, you're unbeatable :lol:
btw my very first car was a BMW, a lemon-yellow 1502 - I could be tempted to get behind the wheel again for one of those today... the colour would certainly shriek everyone out of the way :grin:
...though I always dreamed of a white Alpina 2002...

sorry couldn't resist, Tom :wink:

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 8:37 am
by JamMusic
thanks for the answers
even if none gives me satisfaction cause there were nothing to hear nothing that looks like hit and for gladiator a lot of compagnies claims the soundtrack was made with their soft(logic cubase) and I saw photos of session of recordings of it with a big SSL and tones of hardware gear.

my question (garyb)was not sarcastic at all I really want to hear pieces of music exclusively made with scope to compare to my own job to see if I'm really the worst engineer in the world!
to explain what I mean I went to creamware site to hear the piece of accoustic guitar nylon demo of six strings as a 35 fiver years playing guitarist my references being Al dimeola john mclaughlin satriani etc I found that demo not good at all(the sound)no reallistic at all.
I listened to the demo by rikyel a la Jan hammer here live in creamware france and met J.p rikyel he plays great but the sound for a guitarist is not that close from even a piece of gear like genesis 3 or POD xt

so I wanted to hear mixes better done than mine and all the links you give shows me nothing

but anyway really thank you for trying and still wait

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 10:28 am
by at0m
If you're looking for someone who makes hit music with his DSP cards alone, I'm afraid you're gonna be disappointed. If you're looking for hitmusic done with Cubase alone, you're going to be disappointed.

Isn't one of Hans' tracks called Synchrotron, after the Grenzfrequenz DSP synth? :wink:

BMW '1' series campaign with Scope audio? They must been tight on budget :razz: Don't you expect a state of the art production, JamMusic? I'm sure you can withness that soon yourself - I don't have TV.

Anyways, more hints to hits are allways welcome :smile:

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 11:11 am
by JamMusic
thanx for the answer atomic

though it doesn't help at all but maybe you wanted to show how helpfull you are its done so thanx again

my request was simple and if you've got no answer to it don't feel obliged to make me know about your personal feelings keep your energy to make music
we've had enough dark sarcasm in the classroom

I repeat there's no trick behind my request I was curiuos to hear about job done with scope that had success If that comercial BMW is on french tv I'll try to hear it but that was not my request
and I heard hans piece Synchrotron I was not seduced that much

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 11:24 am
by firubbi
BMW '1' series campaign with Scope audio? They must been tight on budget :razz:
:grin:
we're about to recording our 2nd album with pulsar2. the 1st album we had with protools mix+...and amazing... pulsar2 is almost same as mix+ except the A/D converter of protools. :smile:

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 12:20 pm
by Alphawave
Thats what i thought firubbi.

Scope is the Protools replacement (for the mere mortals).

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 2:51 pm
by garyb
i'll say it again.
if you're not getting good results, then it's the engineer. most everything on the market right now will give a great engineer great results if he has great material to work with(although the better stuff will certainly give a "finer" result. "fine" or "refined" is not always what is desired...)

the recording studio business is a tricky one. "if it was easy everyone would do it."

an old jamaican proverb: don't watch the tool, watch the man that's behind it."

all that said and after experiencing the recording environment from http://www.oceanwayrecording.com/owh.htm to my home studio, i'd say that the stuff in your computer is a really small part of what it takes. THAT said, i'd say that the cwa cards are a FINE, FIRST RATE tool that will give a first rate result to a first rate engineer.

they are worth owning and they are a unique product and a bargain when compared to other gear of the same caliber.

they will not cure cancer or make a bad engineer great(unless he spent his time learning).

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 11:29 pm
by JamMusic
thanks for answer garyb

still not what I asked for it sounds like you want to justify that creamware is worth the buy witch is useless here I've got 2 pulsar2 cards and I really know why I bought them...
by the way what kind of music do you compose?
thanks real much jam

hi firubi
what kind of music do you do with your group what's the name
did you use external stuff?

anyway wish you succes with this album
thanx for the answer

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 1:02 am
by Spirit
JamMusic, sorry that no one here who's trying to help has satisfied your high requirements. We'll all have to try harder.

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 1:16 am
by Nestor
If you judge CWA or anything else by how famous something it is, I think your whole basment is wrong. I would ask rather: what can you do with such and such a product? I don't think that famous productions are a way to tell what is good for you, when they are in the hands of bussiness people. A good product can prove to be good when it does a lot and it does it well, that's all. Otherwise your appreciation will become a psychologycal appareciation, not a proffesional objective one. I personaly don't need to ask anybody what I am hearing myself. All I have to do is to pay attention to my system, if it does all I what for it to do and it does it well, it is good for me. Just my way of thinking.

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:26 am
by garyb
ok Jam, you're welcome. i mostly do reggae, but i have been recording a lot of hip-hop, rap, jazz, rock and african music for others.(just finished a 4 hour session with my Somali clients)

there are a lot of song files here on z and a number of the people posting here on this forum are famous or semi-famous(some are even infamous) but i don't think anyone here is trying to brag much. if you really want a variety of user's rough mixes, projects and products you could try digging around in there(music files forum)........

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:14 am
by firubbi
hi firubi
what kind of music do you do with your group what's the name
did you use external stuff?
anyway wish you succes with this album
i thought you're about to buy cw cards... just checking with z_people how does it sounds? ... :grin: but you'd got 2 of them!
thats wonderful. we play mostly rock, funk kind'a thing (www.shadhinota-bd.com)
* here you'll find user setup:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... 9&start=80
** thanks a lot :smile:

Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:47 am
by ernest@303.nu
Some friends of mine had a couple of 'hits' in their genre (the supersaw-kind-of-trance-genre :wink: Not my cup of tea anyway)
Their main act is CreamTeam, but they have different aliases. From regulary visiting their studios I know their production is done for 95% with just Creamware products, although they use external synths now and then.
All mixing, mastering, effects are done within Creamware.
Try to get a high bitrate mp3 from any of the filesharing systems to judge their production quality (though most of their mp3's are captured from vinyl, so you mileage may vary)
I think their production quality is pretty damn good!