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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:52 pm
by Nisse
Hello fellow pulsar users.

Im having great difficulty with my ASIO driver and VST connections in SFP and Cubase SX 2.01.

Regardless of what Asio driver I load in SFP, my VST connections never display any other bitrate than 16 bit. (and I start Cubase after Ive loaded the Asio drivers, of course)
If I open the Device Setup, and check the VST system link, the correct ASIO but rate is recognised, but in VST connection all I see is 16 bit (?) :eek:


For example, I load ASIO1 Flt source 64 and ASIO1 Flt dest 64 and open up 6 channels in each. If I then open Cubase and chech VST connections I can see all 6 channels, but all of them are displayed as 16 bit. Have I missed something obvious? Because this seems terribly illogical to me.


If anyone could shed some light on this, I´d dance a both embarrasing and stupid jig of joy right here by my computer.
Of course, none of you would ever see it, but I would. :grin:

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:21 pm
by snoopy4ever
Hello

I don't use Cubase SX, but on Cubase 5.x there is an option to enable from 16bits to 24bits and so on. It is on the top of the project window.

Hope this helps a little.

Snoopy

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:36 pm
by Nisse
Hm. . .no I believe that is only to enable 24 bit recording in cubase. It doesnt have anything to do with the Asio driver. Thers a similar setting in SX, but I already have that on 32 bit flt.


Ive also noticed that if i close down Cubase and add more channels to the Asio driver, the added channels are displayed with a higher bit rate while the two first are still only 16 bit.

Im confused. :sad:

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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:57 pm
by siberiansun
probably suggesting the obvious but did you try the asio2-32 64 drivers?

p.s check your mail Nils!

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:18 pm
by Nisse
Yep, tried the Asio 2 drivers as well.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:34 am
by sandrob
do you have some else soundcard in system? did you had kx drivers for soundbalster?

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:43 am
by Nisse
Nope, no other soundcards. I only have 2 Pulsar II:s

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:33 am
by sandrob
my friend had the same problem. he think that source of problem was in kx drivers.
anyway, he finaly solved problem by whole system reinstaling... at last.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:49 am
by at0m
In SX, did u try setting higher bitdepth @ Project properties?

Did you try loading SX without any SFP open / XTC enabled, so that there's no ASIO driver available? This should reset ASIO from SX' side. Then restart SFP and SX, set to ASIO Scope again and see if this improves anything. Maybe a Reset in Devices>Connections>Ins/Outs does the trick?

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:37 am
by Nisse
Atomic:
"Maybe a Reset in Devices>Connections>Ins/Outs does the trick?"

Yes! That worked!
Obviously a reset of the VST Inputs and outputs was all that was needed to show the proper bit depth. Man, things looked weird before I tried that.
Thanks a lot Atomic, and thanks to everyone else who took their time to answer.


*dances a both embarrasing and stupid looking jig of joy by his computer* :grin:

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:37 am
by Plato
Sometimes you need to go into connections [ALt+C] and reset them.....there is a reset button somewhere, or you can delete input & output busses manually. Then you can 'add Bus' and it should see them as 32 bit ones (left click in right-hand column on 'in 1 scope' etc to see all the possiblities). Remember you can have different presets for in/out configs, so once you've sorted it, save it.....


Hey we've been writing our posts at exactly the same time!!!......I now see you're sorted.
I've just looked at my computer by the way, and the input busses come up as 24 bit....Like the wave ones- I suppose the 32 bit part of the whole process must be Cubase's internal processing?????

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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:42 am
by Nisse
Hi Plato, seems we posted simultaneously. :smile:

Yes, the reset was definately it.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:44 am
by Plato
Yeah....synchronicity.
Did you check the bit-rate on your inputs ?(see the edit to my last post)

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:51 am
by at0m
Yes, Plato, that's in VST Connections (press F4), you can save In & Out presets. These reflect the IO busses you'll see on the VST mixer.

Under SX>Devices>Device Setup>VST In/Outputs, however, you can reset the ASIO IO drivers, which don't necessarily show up on the VST Mixer. This needs to be done each time ASIO drivers change, for example when you add an extra stereo bus. If not, Sx won't see the changes you made to the driver in SFP...
Before, SX used to loose the ASIO connection when you changed something on SFP's ASIO modules. Now, it sticks to using the previous configuration unless you press Reset there, so at least you can keep playing while adding ASIO busses in SFP.

So really, there's 2 places to check always for ASIO IO issues...

Anyways, glad Nisse's problem is fixed :smile:

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 10:55 am
by Nisse
Im using the Asio2 Flt source 64 and Asio2 dest 64 and both my inputs and outputs now show Scope Flt.

Edit: Thanks for the above explanation Atomic. Now everything is crystal clear to me, I understand exactly why my Asio behaved as it did.
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:02 am
by Plato
On 2004-03-25 10:51, at0mic wrote:

really, there's 2 places to check always for ASIO IO issues...

:smile:
Well I never knew you had to do it twice, thanks at0mic.