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Hi Smile,
I killed the website because it was badly constructed and not useful at all.

small correction for Berlin:
Jazz-Institut Berlin
Charlottenstr. 55
10117 Berlin
(replaces UdK and Hanns Eisler)
(Hochschule der Künste is university of fine arts!)
They do/did regular presentations of their classes for jazz radio.
Sometimes interesting, sometimes less.
Sometimes great classes (like the one with Ralph Towner), well, sometimes not that much.
It's good to see this conversation between oldies and newbies. Makes the newbies let grow. So I don't expect too much of these presentations. I'm happy if one or two out of the presented 5 or 6 classes are nice to hear. And that's usually the case. And sometimes a new group arises out of this melting pot that you can listen to and want to listen to at your favourite club, like Hyperactive Kid here at the A-Trane.
There is many ways to become master of your chosen instrument, one is jazz.
Yes, and I like it, except maybe these "let's do another one" cream cheesy "after dinner tunes", that, in my inner self, raise the question "where is the toilet?".

To add a positive turn, I think Incognito is a great rendition of jazz/fusion influences. And those guys are GOOD.

Nestor, just ignore me when I say abstract things like that. Sometimes I just can't help talking complete & utter nonsense.

Paul, I don't hate Jazz, but I couldn't even finish listening to your tribute to Michael Brecker. It wasn't my cup of tea at all.

I personally like good jazz drum & bass interaction & that's about it.

Micha wrote:small correction for Berlin:
Jazz-Institut Berlin
Charlottenstr. 55
10117 Berlin
(replaces UdK and Hanns Eisler)
(Hochschule der Künste is university of fine arts!)
They do/did regular presentations of their classes for jazz radio.
Sometimes interesting, sometimes less.
Sometimes great classes (like the one with Ralph Towner), well, sometimes not that much.
It's good to see this conversation between oldies and newbies. Makes the newbies let grow. So I don't expect too much of these presentations. I'm happy if one or two out of the presented 5 or 6 classes are nice to hear. And that's usually the case. And sometimes a new group arises out of this melting pot that you can listen to and want to listen to at your favourite club, like Hyperactive Kid here at the A-Trane.
There is many ways to become master of your chosen instrument, one is jazz.
Yes, and I like it, except maybe these "let's do another one" cream cheesy "after dinner tunes", that, in my inner self, raise the question "where is the toilet?".

What is Berlin compared to Dresden in that way? Dresden is Europes capital of Jazz music. Every 4th jazz musician was built (educated) there.

Ken - IMHO Incognito and all the rest of that acid jazz type stuff (Jamiroquai etc) is pretty weak. While they are undoubtedly great musicians, they really just do bland pastiches of old skool funk/fusion. For me this is a big part of the problem.. they're not really adding anything new to the artform whatsoever.

braincell wrote:Don't make me post my longer list of colleges that have barbershop quartets. Even the women are doing it.

More colleges teach Latin. Otherwise known as a "dead language".

Yea... but where are the gigs on latin improvisation? Nevertheless... there are thousand of solos going on, "right now!", all around the world... facts are facts, maths comand the world...

I have been the witness of some strange phenomenon about people composing similar things.

It is most curious that some people around the world have composed quite the same music than others, without getting to know each other, and without having ever heard the composition that is so similar to theirs. I’ve heard witness it with some Rock music, Classical music and particularly, melodic music, not too many times, but fair enough to understand that there is a deep reason to it...

Why is it that? Because music is a language and so people express themselves through similar emotions through time, it is not by chance that this happens, but because many of us experience similar things in life, and we get close to each other with through these feelings, and so, if you say: “well, I would have liked so much to live a different life”, you bet there are many people that have said it, just like you. This happens musically too.

Said that, I don’t think that people goes back or forward with music, in a sense of looking for the old school, etc., but rather, that they correspond in what they feel. And if you consciously go back to a particular style, (like it happened some many times in the history of modern music), it is because you are feeling this way, anyway.

That's a romantic way of putting it. I just think they make a conscious decision to make music in whatever genre they are able to and set about copying what they heard other people do.

Braincell has summed up one of my ways of doing things.
But I prefer the term "stylistic study" to "copying"

It's nothing to be ashamed of. It's part of what forms our conciousness, our perception of music (for example).

My musical tastes & productions don't represent my musical consciousness, as I'd imagine most of your's don't

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darkrezin wrote:Ken - IMHO Incognito and all the rest of that acid jazz type stuff (Jamiroquai etc) is pretty weak.

Jamiroquai is 'jazz' ?

Boy, am I ever confused now!

I always had him pinned down as "funk lite", a non-fattening, low-cal, watered-down form of Funk.

Whatever he is he's shite.

second that!

she's just a cosmic girl, lalalaaaa

Po' old JK

I hate jazz (& funk & everything) if it ain't played just the way i like it

royston - it's jazz-funk-soul, and yes it is very watered down jazz-funk-soul - for me it's formulaic, bland pastiche that isn't saying anything new. If you want to check the real stuff listen to what these dudes were doing in the 70s: Roy Ayers, Eddie Henderson, Donald Byrd, Earth Wind & Fire, Gary Bartz, Stevie Wonder, Lonnie Liston Smith, Patrice Rushen etc

someone should definitely present some written in stone defnite rules on what is jazz, funk and other genres so we can finally judge them by purity