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Something to entertain ourselves with during the Brexit anti elitist era we find ourselves in.

Out cherished celebrities want us to do as they say, not as they do.
Just like those lawyers in DC they tell us to hold so high.

Seems we beg to differ.

This guy is a major thorn in their ass who I love to laugh about.
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Liberals are trying hard to get Trump off the chair, but there are so many people watching the process in such detail, with such strength, that it has become impossible for them to do so, they are been followed in every single move, so it seems Trump will finally and nevertheless get into power.

We are in fire, everywhere, whatever it might be: if Trump gets into power, he will splash the entire world with difficulties, struggles and economic problems trying to save USA alone, this is my guess. Now, if the other team gets into power, we would be in even bigger problems, so cruel they are. Nevertheless, it seems that both sides will, eventually and unfortunately, get us into war, it is what it is being seen, not through: Yes, Trump wants to reactivate many dangerous sanctions, I think this is a truly BAD, genuinely BAD idea!

You can be very successful rising up a big business, like he very successfully did for so many years, but “countries” are NOT in the same league as “business competitors”.

I am very worried of the present situation, honestly, I don’t see the international boat floating correctly into the waters of life right now.
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I don't share your sentiment about war.
But everyone wants more territory, more power...
Hoping the God King Trump does stop the madness.
I like buying globally and save money on hardware built in China.
But when you can use American made speakers like Eminence and buy PCBs to build a stage monitor, but can't make money unless you send the parts to China, then have them build and ship it back, something is wrong with laws and taxes on business in California.

Americans in their 50s and 60s watched this over a 20 year period.
It still puzzles us that we trust temporary lawyers to have a long term strategy, when in fact they operate for a year at best, then waste a year getting re elected.
Our trading partners think long term and actually represent those they rule over to an extent.
We on the other hand are promised free stuff to play along, extra food, and cheap prices on clothing and food, when actually it's quality sucks, pants wear out quickly so instead of a pair lasting 10 years you buy 5 pair that last 2 years.
We actually spend more.

So it's a mixed bad of plus and minus.
But now that capitalism and trade brought 500,000,000 people out of poverty, time to think about Main Street again.
That's where having temporary occupants overseeing long term needs fails.
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32 pages of my thread within a short time. Nice, I'm really pretty proud of you! But brexit comes and terrible terrorism too. I hate this it is like 3rd world war. You should worry. Italy exit too.
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Calling all alternative news channels as “FAKE NEWS”, in fact, have REVEALED the very nature of these people workings! They have burned themselves in plain light! Because they have told the world HOW they work!

Institutions created to talk about health are in fact the institutions that create the necessary illnesses to earn ridiculously huge amounts of money, the laboratories that are labeled as “great health science to the service of the people”, are in fact, murder factories of pills, drugs and bad medicines that go, in most cases, half the way needed, there are thousands of proofs of it. Governmental institutions that handle “peace efforts” are in fact those who create the necessary problems to build up and create wars, again, creating trillions of dollars in revenue at the end, very easy to follow and prove too. The institutions created to bring us “information”, have been institutions to bring us lies, strategies and collective hypnotism to influence massively people’s views, convictions and final opinions, ideas and decisions!

You can go on and on with this pattern and you will find that everything is upside-down.

Thank you aliens to the human nature , for confirming us, finally, that YOU have been and are the problem in this world! :lol: :lol: :lol: Enemies of the world! :evil:
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Nestor wrote:
I am very worried of the present situation, honestly, I don’t see the international boat floating correctly into the waters of life right now.

I had triple bypass surgery under the ACA and Obamacare saved my life. Now the Rethuglicans want to take it away. They are nuts, all of them!
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the ACA hasn't made anything affordable for me in any way. in fact, i can't even just do without and die on my own, because the "affordable care" for insurance with such big deductibles that it would be cheaper to just fly to Thailand and pay cash and fly back in the event of an emergency, is mandatory and i am subject to a fine.

for those with no money at all, it's free, that's true, but for those people there was already medicare. the ACA is a big scam. private insurance is still cheaper, but private insurance often is not on the "approved list" and is subject to a fine.

i am truly glad that you were helped, braincell. i really am. for me, it's a big, bad, scam. i hope that it's scrapped. i'm happy if something replaces it that is actually intended to be helpful and not just a windfall for the health insurance industry. those guys are doing fine as it is.
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garyb wrote:the ACA hasn't made anything affordable for me in any way. in fact, i can't even just do without and die on my own, because the "affordable care" for insurance with such big deductibles that it would be cheaper to just fly to Thailand and pay cash and fly back in the event of an emergency, is mandatory and i am subject to a fine.

for those with no money at all, it's free, that's true, but for those people there was already medicare. the ACA is a big scam. private insurance is still cheaper, but private insurance often is not on the "approved list" and is subject to a fine.

i am truly glad that you were helped, braincell. i really am. for me, it's a big, bad, scam. i hope that it's scrapped. i'm happy if something replaces it that is actually intended to be helpful and not just a windfall for the health insurance industry. those guys are doing fine as it is.

I'm sorry it was more expensive for you. It should not be expensive for anyone who does not have that kind of money to spend. In my state, even if you have a job it's not so expensive as it was before the ACA but maybe for some people it's more expensive. The thing is, if you have a family and you have your wife and children on healthcare, you are getting subsidized by single people who end up having to pay more for health care. That is not fair. That is one of the many reasons that marriage is a scam on society.
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braincell wrote:
Nestor wrote:
I am very worried of the present situation, honestly, I don’t see the international boat floating correctly into the waters of life right now.

I had triple bypass surgery under the ACA and Obamacare saved my life. Now the Rethuglicans want to take it away. They are nuts, all of them!
Fortunately you are ok Brain! I didn’t know you passed through such a dangerous process, I am glad to know you are safe and sound now.

Nevertheless, just look at the whole picture and you will find that you are an exception, not the rule. You are a very lucky person against millions of people that have suffered, not only the illness that came to them, but the vanishing of their entire economy, their house, car, etc., so expensive the process was for them and their illness. You have to look at the big picture and you will see clearly that Obamacare it has been a cruel scam for most people.

Let us not forget how much more this year the costs would have risen if the Clinton were in power!
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Brothers, those of you living in the USA, wherever you are, please, do not get out into the wild the inauguration day. I think it is not a good idea to get out there exposing yourself to who knows what. People are crazy, angry, and preparing for a big clash against each other. You may laugh at me, that’s fine I don’t mind, I just would not like for anyone of you to be harmed because of possible violence in the streets. I know I could be wrong, but I prefer to prevent than to cure. If I was in the USA nowadays, I would ask my friends around not to get out at all, least of all into any kind of trains, they are saying they want to stop the traffic, etc. Stay at home please.
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Nestor wrote: Nevertheless, just look at the whole picture and you will find that you are an exception, not the rule. You are a very lucky person against millions of people that have suffered, not only the illness that came to them, but the vanishing of their entire economy, their house, car, etc., so expensive the process was for them and their illness. You have to look at the big picture and you will see clearly that Obamacare it has been a cruel scam for most people.

Let us not forget how much more this year the costs would have risen if the Clinton were in power!

Not true. The clear majority of Americans now want the ACA and millions have signed up for it in the past few months.
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Nestor wrote:Brothers, those of you living in the USA, wherever you are, please, do not get out into the wild the inauguration day. I think it is not a good idea to get out there exposing yourself to who knows what. People are crazy, angry, and preparing for a big clash against each other. You may laugh at me, that’s fine I don’t mind, I just would not like for anyone of you to be harmed because of possible violence in the streets. I know I could be wrong, but I prefer to prevent than to cure. If I was in the USA nowadays, I would ask my friends around not to get out at all, least of all into any kind of trains, they are saying they want to stop the traffic, etc. Stay at home please.

The protest in dc the day after will have many more people than the inauguration. A growing number of Congressional Democrats won't be attending the inauguration. It's up to 59 at the moment.
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Well of course, so it would be wise to avoid all these days too.
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Nestor wrote:Well of course, so it would be wise to avoid all these days too.
I'm going down there Saturday!
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What for? if you don't mind?
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To let it be known, the majority of Americans didn't vote for the Trump Nazi Party.
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heck, the majority of Americans didn't vote for the Donald Nazi party or the Hillary Nazi party.
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garyb wrote:heck, the majority of Americans didn't vote for the Donald Nazi party or the Hillary Nazi party.

Yep. Wich means Hillary did not win the 'majority', since over 100-million Americans did not vote. But what the Liberal Democrats fail to realize is that non-votes are equivalent to votes for the winner wich was Donald Trump. We are always told to get out and vote cause if we don't then it is our fault if someone we don't like gets the political position and this is true. Those who did not vote helped out Donald Trump cause if they wanted Hillary or anyone else they should've voted but they didn't and thanks to them Donald won. Hillary did not win the Majority vote at best one can say she won a Plurality vote but that even is not true since the majority and plurality both are with those who did not vote and that non-vote is indirectly a vote for Trump whether intended to be or not. She only won more individuals votes than Donald wich is totally irrelevant since it's not a popular vote contest.

Political campaigns are not just about getting people to vote for you they are also about turning-off your opponents voters so they don't show up wich ultimately was many of the non-voters (The democrats voter count was down this election). Non-votes are part of the objective as well this is why candidates sling mud and have smear-campains/personal-attacks cause this is to create low voter turn-out wich did happen but benifitted Donald. Mudd slinging was done by both candidates but Donald won cause the low voter turn-out was to his advantage. Elections are not just about getting more votes than your opponent but also about making non-votes work to your advantage. This is common-knowledge but you won't hear the liberal democrats mention this reality. Obama stated before the Election results that his legacy was on the line and if people didn't come out to vote it would be a insult to him, people didn't come out cause they didn't care for his policies/legacy. They rejected him threw non-vote and he knew before-hand that this would be a rejection of all he done if Hillary didn't win.. Non-votes function as votes for the winner.

The Democrats like to tout they won the popular-vote but this makes no sense when you look at the whole picture. Trump won the majority when looking at number of States and the Electoral college wich is how our system truly works. Both candidates knew all the rules and what they needed to do to win before the election, Donald beat Hillary according to the rules. If the rules were different he would've campaigned different so one can't say Hillary would've won if popular-vote was the Election method. The popular-vote win Hillary has is solely due to California, California and New-York are States with extremely large amounts of illegal immigrants wich is what Democrats masterminded over-time specifically to win the popular-vote, but to their surprise they did win the popular-vote but still lost the election (our forefathers out-smarted their nefarious scheme long ago with the Electoral College system).

The latest stats I heard stated most people still was unhappy with obamacare. But polls are irrelavent at this point cause the best indicator that shows what people want is the Election and this election chose Donald Trump. At the end of the day if the people of America wanted Obamacare they would've came out and voted for it. Elections are louder statements than any other from the people and Elections are the final word. The people did not want Obamacare when it was first created cause it costed the democrats a lot of congressional seats in 2010, and now in 2016 America still doesn't want Obamacare cause America has given the Republicans total control over the entire Government i.e. the House, Senate, Presidency, Supreme Court, lower Federal Court picks, Governorships and State legaslators. People keep focusing on the popular-vote Hillary won in the Presidential race but willfully ignore looking at the whole picture wich includes all the other political races the Republican party won. Obama's liberal policies was emphatically rejected because the Republicans were given a mandate due to the many elections they won from State level to Federal level.

More proof that Obamacare was rejected by America lies with the fact that Obamacare was starting to collapse more and more. Obamacare simply put was not working because not enough young and healthy people or other needed demographics signed up for it. Insurers started dropping out of markets and obamacare fees was rising and was going to continue to rise to the Heavens until the whole thing collapsed. The fact that it wasn't working and slowly falling apart is the proof as well that America did not want it. The legislation passed by politicians have to work for enough people to survive and be declared 'American', if it does not survive it does not reflect American values. When the people vote for or destroy legislation then the people have spoken.

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