about primary in USA

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:42 am

# In den Vorwahlen lassen die beiden großen Parteien (Demokratische Republikaner und Republikanische Demokraten) den kleinen Mann von der Straße entscheiden, wer denn nun für das Amt des Großen Bombenwerfers am geeignetsten ist. Das schöne: Alle getroffenen Entscheidungen waren bisher richtig!
# Von großer Bedeutung ist das sog. Profil der Kandidaten: Nur wer es schafft, rhetorisch begeisternd die Themen Waffengesetze, Umweltschutz, Kapitalismus und Bombenwerfen zu umschiffen, hat eine Chance. Redenschreiber vollbringen hier wahre Wunder und werden wie Zuchtpferde gehandelt.
# Noch wichtiger ist das Privatleben: Als Kind einen Knallfrosch in den Auspuff des Nachbarn gesteckt oder mit dem Essen gespielt – schon ist es vorbei mit der Aussicht auf's Präsidentenamt. Ungefährlich dagegen: eine Vergangenheit als Ku-Klux-Klan-Mitglied und/oder Starkstromalkoholiker. Ebenfalls kritisch: Sieben-Bier-Homosexualität, Familienmitglied mit Vorstrafe wegen Klebstoffschnüffelns.
# Alle Kandidaten bewegen sich stes in blau-weiß-roter Umgebung inklusive US-Flagge, was Patriotismus und eine Vorliebe für "französisch" symbolisiert. Bei Barack Obama stehen die Sterne in der Flagge allerdings auf dem Kopf, achten Sie mal drauf.
# Am Ende gewinnen dann zwei. Die Wahlautomaten bestimmen anschließend, wer der Wallstreet am meisten Gewinn abwirft und in dieser weiß angestrichenen Hütte (betreut) wohnen muß. Insofern hätte man sich das ganze Brimborium eigentlich sparen können.

Neutron · Post by **Neutron** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:50 am

You get to choose which billionaire will sell you out to corporations.
sometimes just your money, sometimes your health, sometimes your life.

Post by **garyb** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:09 pm

bottom line.

Post by **garyb** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:08 am

that is reality. there is no hope without a solid grasp of what is real.

Post by **garyb** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:32 am

Ron Paul.

valis · Post by **valis** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:53 am

I agree actually.

Also, a bit curious to see how the N.H. recounts turnout.

Post by **garyb** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:03 pm

well, both Obama and Paul have already shown discrepancies. in Paul's case, several districs which had reported ZERO votes have already changed, since the people who actually did cast votes for him stood up and complained. after analysis it seems that although those votes were hand counted properly, somehow they didn't get transferred to the master tally sheet....in Obama's case, exit polls and the final results were wildly different everywhere optical scanners were used, but not where hand counted ballots were used....

valis · Post by **valis** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:16 pm

garyb wrote:well, both Obama and Paul have already shown discrepancies. in Paul's case, several districs which had reported ZERO votes have already changed, since the people who actually did cast votes for him stood up and complained. after analysis it seems that although those votes were hand counted properly, somehow they didn't get transferred to the master tally sheet....in Obama's case, exit polls and the final results were wildly different everywhere optical scanners were used, but not where hand counted ballots were used....

Yep. In the case of Paul's 'missing' votes they claimed that his count was so low in each case they 'didn't bother' registering it. A paranoid ear might hear that as someone suddenly 'remembering' that there was a small enough number of votes to account for the few complainers. The last presential election has been studied by quite a few political science courses, and some interesting data emerged in places where there seemed to be discrepancies. It's unfortunate that it takes 1-2 years for analyses to emerge as by then the majority of people don't even pay enough attention and the media just downplays it through ridicule.

Post by **garyb** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:04 pm

yes, well the folks who run things have no respect for anyone anyway. we all know that so it's hard to get up the energy to fight against such systematic corruption, knowing that the entire process is meant to make the voter impotent in the final analysis(just pick your "authority" and submit!)...

a funny thing about the company(connected to diebold) that runs all the voting machines in new england, the people in charge and who are writing all the computer code are convicted felons....

and about choosing the "lesser of the two evils", either way one is choosing to be ruled by evil. this is NOT a choice....

valis · Post by **valis** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:24 pm

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... rtant.html

valis · Post by **valis** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:21 pm

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... mbers.html

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:52 pm

watch out for the next episode:

http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-in ... o-suppress

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:53 am

I would not vote for a homophobic antisemitic racist:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/ ... wsletters/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/ ... 1817.shtml

stardust wrote:But hey, there is the alternative to vote one of the real alternatives. I am trying not to seem naive, but at least there must be the less polluted choice.

cheers.

garyb wrote:Ron Paul.

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:13 am

Then you are probably in need to found your own party in the good old us of a

Post by **garyb** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:24 am

Ron Paul's not a racist. that's some of the worst propaganda, it's emblematic of how he has been systematically excluded from all debate(maybe because he opposes imperialism and the central bank?). he's spoken up continuously about how racist the "war on drugs" is.

he doesn't think homosexuality is cool, but he also doesn't think the government has anything to do with the practice thereof...

he's not CFR or Bilderburg and he belives in constitutional government.... good enough for me.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:26 pm

We like to say we are a democracy but there are only two viable parties which makes us one step away from being a single party government which is what they have in China.

The parties will always fight to keep it this way so they can hold on to power. Even when not in the majority, they still have a lot of elected officials. Having a 3rd popular party would make it a lot more difficult for either the democrats or republicans to hold on to power. They all say they want to help us but really all they want is to have power and dominance over everyone.

Zer wrote:Then you are probably in need to found your own party in the good old us of a

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:05 pm

just like I said or

PE wrote:As the rhythm designed to bounce
What counts is that the rhymes
Designed to fill your mind
Now that you've realized the prides arrived
We got to pump the stuff to make us tough
from the heart
It's a start, a work of art
To revolutionize make a change nothin's strange
People, people we are the same
No we're not the same
Cause we don't know the game
What we need is awareness, we can't get careless
You say what is this?
My beloved lets get down to business
Mental self defensive fitness
(Yo) bum rush the show
You gotta go for what you know
Make everybody see, in order to fight the powers that be
Lemme hear you say...
Fight the Power

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:52 am

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:07 pm

Here's a directional sign that says it all.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:42 pm

Ah, you could be worse off. You could have an evil Zombie in charge like us.

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