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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:31 pm
by eliam
Hehe, no I would never impose anything upon anyone, unless my safety or anyone else's is in direct jeopardy... I just affirm what I know to be true from my own (limited but real) experience.
Yes my ego had to bend at a certain point, I was quite stubborn and I'm still working daily to remain harmonious and reminded of my True Identity. There is no let down on this Path! No other personality subjected me to the hard lessons I had to go through to look straight at the Light, the Life in me was responsible for leading me in the right direction. Once I looked one good time at my own Inner Light, then I worked (and still am working) really hard to clean up my life from the filth I had let gather and keep my intellect under control to avoid as much problems as possible and be happy. The attitude I cultivate is that of a young child: totally humble, open and awed before the Miracle of Life!!
As someone once said: the intellect is a very good servant but a really poor master. If it is left unattended it is like a young pup, it runs anywhere and everywhere and will likely get you into much trouble. The intellect is usually both stubborn and of such limited understanding that it is totally clueless as to the real meaning of life, let alone a global understanding of the real causes of things and Laws of Life. So, when people crown their own ego as the master and ruler of their own temple, then they live under the tyranny of an unenlightened being and the result is suffering and misery. That is, until the ego is brought down into its real function: to serve the True Divine Self and be silent. To be quiet and wait for the Instructions from God within is the SOLE PURPOSE of the outer personality and the only way by which anyone can free himself from the wheel of rebirth and unending distress and war.
I thought myself an atheist for many years, but I guess my desire for the Truth was stronger than my attachment to my self-centered illusions! Thank God, for let me tell you one thing: I would be in a sorry state today if I would have continued on my old path!!! So if anyone try to insinuate that all religions are poison and a personal relation to God is a bad thing, to such a one I simply say with love : shut up! Your vision is so obscured by your own illusion that you can't see past your own lies and limitations! If you disagree, fine, but just refrain from spewing the poison of ignorance to your brothers who seek only freedom and happiness!
Does it seem harsh? really it's not, its a matter of honor, integrity and survival, nothing else. There has to be a voice of reason to be heard within this sea of lies and ignorance, don't you think?
Be at peace!
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:37 pm
by eliam
Yes, the power of constructive affirmation is incredibly huge!
And the feeling after visualizing the Violet Flame is intense! I'm happy you feel it too! Keep at it brother, this Flame actually dissolves the densities that keep us in distress, but we have to gain a momentum in Its use so we are kept disconnected from the outer illusions!
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:46 pm
by Shroomz~>
Every single time I walk outside recently, the rain comes on. After a few months with quite a bit of bad luck, I start to wonder if these are signs. I do not believe in god, but maybe what goes around truely does come around

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:17 pm
by BingoTheClowno
eliam wrote:
As someone once said: the intellect is a very good servant but a really poor master. If it is left unattended it is like a young pup, it runs anywhere and everywhere and will likely get you into much trouble. The intellect is usually both stubborn and of such limited understanding that it is totally clueless as to the real meaning of life, let alone a global understanding of the real causes of things and Laws of Life. So, when people crown their own ego as the master and ruler of their own temple, then they live under the tyranny of an unenlightened being and the result is suffering and misery. That is, until the ego is brought down into its real function: to serve the True Divine Self and be silent. To be quiet and wait for the Instructions from God within is the SOLE PURPOSE of the outer personality and the only way by which anyone can free himself from the wheel of rebirth and unending distress and war.
So what made you come out of your "humble" silence? Are you in danger?
eliam wrote:
I thought myself an atheist for many years, but I guess my desire for the Truth was stronger than my attachment to my self-centered illusions!
And the truth being ....?
eliam wrote:
Thank God, for let me tell you one thing: I would be in a sorry state today if I would have continued on my old path!!! So if anyone try to insinuate that all religions are poison and a personal relation to God is a bad thing, to such a one I simply say with love : shut up! Your vision is so obscured by your own illusion that you can't see past your own lies and limitations! If you disagree, fine, but just refrain from spewing the poison of ignorance to your brothers who seek only freedom and happiness!
Does it seem harsh? really it's not, its a matter of honor, integrity and survival, nothing else. There has to be a voice of reason to be heard within this sea of lies and ignorance, don't you think?
Telling some one to shut up is not loving nor humble, it is downright arrogant and egotistical, quite the opposite that you claim to be, a supreme being that was touched by a misterious light called life. You are not the voice of reason, you are the voice of arrogance and delusion.
We don't have a vision nor illusions, we have facts and numbers. Our happiness does not depend on the caprices of a fictious god that tortures and kills his own son (How's that for an illusion?), nor on the approval of a anointed priest.
You didn't have give to up your reason to get out of your "sorry state". It seems to me you're in a worst predicament than before.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:37 pm
by eliam
I don't want you to believe me, I'm merely stating my point of view, humbly yet sometimes in an affirmative, positive way. There is no use to insult me or to pass judgement on my life which you know almost nothing about. To act like that is childish and pathetic, but that's fine too, you can crap over who you want if this is your way of dealing with stuff you don't understand in your sorry narrow point of view. Someday you will be mature and in mastery of your emotional impulses enough to refrain from spewing the poison of hate to those who only have good feeling towards you. You clearly don't have a clue about what I'm trying to explain to you, but still my feelings of encouragements go to you anyway! Those disagreements have no power.
Nevertheless I'm through discussing with such a disrespectful person as you.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:03 pm
by BingoTheClowno
eliam wrote:I don't want you to believe me, I'm merely stating my point of view, humbly yet sometimes in an affirmative, positive way. There is no use to insult me or to pass judgement on my life which you know almost nothing about. To act like that is childish and pathetic, but that's fine too, you can crap over who you want if this is your way of dealing with stuff you don't understand in your sorry narrow point of view. Someday you will be mature and in mastery of your emotional impulses enough to refrain from spewing the poison of hate to those who only have good feeling towards you. You clearly don't have a clue about what I'm trying to explain to you, but still my feelings of encouragements go to you anyway! Those disagreements have no power.
Nevertheless I'm through discussing with such a disrespectful person as you.
My narrow point of view is shared by the brightest scientists of this world. Who the fuck shares your delusions besides pope charlatans and pederasts priests? Yes I crap on what was and still is the scum of this earth.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:56 pm
by garyb
BingoTheClowno wrote:eliam wrote:My narrow point of view is shared by the brightest scientists of this world.
oh really?
and you were hanging out with them the other day discussing quarks and migration patterns of canada geese and other grooovy science stuff, and ______ said(fill in the blank) " darn it bingo! all us smart, top notch folk agree with you! those guys on planetz like pederasts and scum!". i can see it now....
sniff sniif...
hey! i smell troll!
give it up man. i really don't agree with eliam, but i have to respect him, and i know this-he is a well wisher for you and me and all of us here. that makes him a good guy. please don't be rude. i know you're a clown(because of your name) and though i find you disturbing(for being so serious), in the end i still have to laugh. but not everyone knows that they should laugh at you, you're not really trying to hurt someone who's never hurt you are you? everyone here knows that you don't know
any of
the brightest scientists in the world. you don't even know me.
pretending to hang out with smart people won't make you smart.
btw-your hero Albert Pike liked little kids too. i don't even want to speak the horrors that Jack Parsons enjoyed(founder of pasadena's JPL, that made the rocket fuel for the saturn V and other famous rockets). when you really check them out, quite a number of the brightest(illuminated, you know, the one you worship Lucifer, the light bringer, bright, illumined, lucent, brilliant, etc.) are into some pretty filthy behavior. it seems that power and secret knowledge are quite corrupting whether you represent the church, or academia.....

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:07 pm
by BingoTheClowno
garyb wrote:
btw-your hero Albert Pike liked little kids too.
You're a professional bullshiter aren't you?
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:59 pm
by garyb
no, amatuer.
the stories are true, though.
i haven't changed any names either. those guys aren't innocent.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:09 pm
by eliam
ahah! good one Gary!
Ok, just for clarity's sake, when I say 'shut up' and such seemingly harsh expressions, this is because that's how important I feel these values are for me. If someone would come in your home and destroy something that is most valuable for you wouldn't you say 'get out' and use any means necessary to get rid of the intruder? Well, same thing here! When people begin to desecrate what is the One Absolute Most Important, baneficient, Sacred, happiness-generating, freedom-bringing thing that I ever found in all my lives, well, of course I'll stand up and say be silent you know not what this is about.
Now, even though the Light is Sacred and all that stuff, I'm not so serious that I can't laugh and be joyful and be a good buddy of yours! And that's the main point! And I'm in that feeling when I speak to the brothers of Pz, and I do it because I like the friendly vibe which exists here. In fact apart from those 2 bullies Bingo and Braincell, who rush like bulls in a corrida at almost anything that doesn't fit in their own paradigm, the crowd is quite relaxed around here, a happy family I would say!

Pretty intense people as a whole, I like it!
Cheers!