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Yea... Jazz is gone... :P : instrument makers, musicians, links, comunities, schools, universities, festivals, concerts, experiments, groups, new DVDs and CDs, labels...

"Personal ideas" without facts are of very little value, while "facts", even without ideas to support them, are the real thing.

These are facts, and so, I don't need to say... "anything"... :D

Don't just scroll around, get to visit the links and surprise yourself...

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Faro 8000
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Artemivsk Music School 12 Lermontova Str.
Artemivsk 343400
Ukraine

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Paris 75010
France

Arizona State University School of Music, PO box 870405
Tempe AZ 85287
United States

Amsterdam Conservatory Van Baerlestraat 27
Amsterdam 1071 AN
Netherlands

American School of Modern Music 117 Rue de la Croix Nivert
Paris 75015
France

American River College 4700 College Oak Drive
Sacramento CA 95841
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American Conservatory of Music 252 Wildwood Road
Hammond IN 46324
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Amarillo TX 79178
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AIMRA 18 rue Chenard
Lyon 69009
France

A.N.D.J. V. Sedile di Porto, 50
Napoli 80134
Italy

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Warrensburg MO 64093
United States

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Mount Pleasant MI 48858
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Silkeborg 8600
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Casper WY 82601
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Columbus OH 43209

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North Vancouver BC V7J 3H5
Canada

California University of Pa. Music Dept - Reed Art Center
California PA 15419
United States

California State University, Northridge 18111 Nordhoff Street
Northridge CA 91330-8314
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California State University, Monterey Bay 100 Campus Center, Bldg 30
Seaside CA 93955
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California State University Sacramento 6000 J Street
Sacramento CA 95819-6015
USA

California State University at Los Angeles Department of Music/ 5151 State University Drive
Los Angeles CA 90032
United States

California State University at Long Beach 1250 Bellflower Blvd.
Long Beach CA 90840
USA

California State University at Hayward Music Department, 25800 Carlos Bee Blvd.
Hayward CA 94542
United States

California State University at Fullerton 800 North State College
Fullerton CA 92834
United States

California State University at Chico Music Department, 2nd & Normal PAC #105
Chico CA 95928
United States

California State University at Bakersfield 9001 Stockdale Highway
Bakersfield CA 93311
United States

California Institute of the Arts 24700 McBean Parkway
Valencia CA 91355
United States

Cal Poly State University Mus. Dept., Jazz Studies, 1 Grand Ave.
San Luis Obispo CA 93407
United States

Cal Poly State University Mus. Dept., Jazz Studies, 1 Grand Ave.
San Luis Obispo CA 93407
United States

Cabrillo College Music Dept., 6500 Soquel Dr.
Aptos CA 95003
United States

C.W Post Campus of Long Island University Department of Music, 720 Northern Boulevard
Brookville NY 11548-1300
United States

C.S. Mott Community College 1401 E. Court St.
Flint MI 48503
United States

BuJazzO- The Youth Orchestra of Germany Weberstrasse 59
Bonn 53113
Germany

Bruckner Konservatorium Wildbergstrasse 18
Linz 4040
Austria

Brubeck Institute 3601 Pacific Avenue
Stockton CA 95211
United States

Broward Community College Davie FL USA

Brooklyn Conservatory of Music - Queens Campus 42-76 Main Street
Flushing NY 11355
United States

Brooklyn Conservatory of Music - Brooklyn Campus 58 7th Avenue
Brooklyn NY 11217
United States

Brigham Young University E-570 HFAC
Provo UT 84602
USA

Brevard College 400 N. Broad Street
Brevard NC 28712
United States

Central Queensland Conservatorium of Music Boundary Road
Mackay 4740
Australia

Centro Jazz Torino Via Pomba 4
Torino 10123
Italy

Centro Musical Antonio Adolfo Rua Corcovado 57#701
J.Botanico-Rio de Janeiro 22460
Brazil

Centro Studi Musicali Via Ghislandi 55
Bergamo 24125
Italy

Chicago College of Performing Arts at Roosevelt University 430 S. Michigan Avenue
Chicago IL 60605
United States

CIM School of Jazz 83 bis, rue Doudeauville
Paris 75018
France

City College of New York Music Dept., 138th St. & Convent Ave.
New York NY 10031
United States

City University of New York Lehman College, MD, 250 Bedford Park West
Bronx NY 10468
United States

Civici Corsi di Jazz di Milano C.so Venezia, 7
Milano 20121
Italy

Clarke College 1550 Clarke Drive
Dubuque IA 52001
USA

Clayton State University Schoo of Arts & Sciences, Department of Music
Morrow GA 30260
United States

Cleveland State University Black Studies Program 2121 Euclid Avenue, UC 103
Cleveland OH 44115-2214
United States

CNR de Nice 129,Avenue Brancolar
NICE 06000
France

Coastal Bend College 3800 Charco Rd.
Beeville TX 78102
United States

Coe College 1220 First Ave. NE
Cedar Rapids IA 52402
United States

Colgate University 13 Oak Drive
Hamilton NY 13346
United States

College of Charleston 54 St. Phillips St.
Charleston SC 29424
United States

College of Lake County 19351 W. Washington St.
Grayslake IL 60030
United States

College of Saint Rose 432 Western Ave
Albany NY 12203
United States

College of Southern Idaho Music Dept., 315 Falls Avenue
Twin Falls ID 83301
United States

College of the Mainland 1200 Amburn Road
Texas City TX 77591
USA

Collin County Community College 2800 E. Spring Creek Pkwy.
Plano TX 75074
United States

Columbia College Jazz Studies, 11600 Columbia College Dr.
Sonora CA 95370
United States

Columbia College Chicago 600 South Michigan Ave.
Chicago IL 60605
United States

Columbia University Music Department, 621 Dodge Hall, 2960 Broadway
New York NY 10027
United States

Columbus State University 4225 University Avenue
Columbus GA 31906
USA

Community College of Baltimore, Catonsville Campus Dept. of Music, 800 S. Rolling Rd.
Catonsville MD 21228
United States

Community College of Southern Nevada 3200 E. Cheyenne Ave.
N. Las Vegas NV 89030
United States

Conservatoire de Fribourg Route Louis-Braille 8
Granges-Paccot 1763
Switzerland

Conservatoire de Liege 14, rue Forgeur
Liege 4000
Belgium

Conservatoire de Montreux Switzerland

Conservatoire de Paris (CNSMDP) 209 Avenue Jean Jaurès
Paris 75019
France

Conservatoire Populaire de Musique de Geneve Bd. Saint Georges 36
Geneve 1205
Switzerland

Conservatoire Royal de Bruxelles 30, rue de la Regence
Bruxelles 1000
Belgium

Conservatorium Arnhem-Zwolle Onderlangs 9
Arnhem NL 6812 CE
Netherlands

Cornish College of the Arts 1000 Lenora Street
Seattle WA 98121
United States

Cracow School of Jazz and Contemporary Music ul. Zaleskiego 11a
Krakow 31-525
Poland

Cuesta College Jazz Studies, PO Box 8106
San Luis Obispo CA 93401
United States

Cumberland College 7525 College Station Drive
Williamsburg KY 40769
USA

Cuyahoga Community College Arts and Music Building #204, 2900 Community College Avenue
Cleveland OH 44115
United States

Davidson College Music Department P.O. Box 7131
Davidson NC 28035
United States

DePaul University 804 W. Belden Ave.
Chicago IL 60614
United States

DePauw University School of Music, 600 S. Locust Street
Greencastle IN 46135
United States

Det Alternative Rytmiske Konservatorium HOF Koebmagergade 26
Copenhagen 1150
Denmark

Det Fynske Musik-Konservatorium Islandsgade 2
Odense C 5000
Denmark

Det Jyske Musikkonservatorium Fuglesangsalle 26
Aarhus 8210
Denmark

Diablo Valley College 321 Golf Club Road
Pleasant Hill CA 94523
United States

Duke University 105 Mary Duke Biddle Music Building
Durham NC 27708
USA

Duquesne University Mary Pappert School of Music, 600 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh PA 15282
United States

E.D.I.M. 24. Av. D'Alembert
Antony 92160
France

East Carolina University School of Music, Fletcher Music Center
Greenville NC 27858-4353
United States

East Stroudsburg University of Pennsylvania Music Department, F&PAC 200 Prospect Street
East Stroudsburg PA 18301-2999
United States

Eastern Illinois University Department of Music, 600 Lincoln Ave.
Charleston IL 61920
United States

Eastman School of Music 26 Gibbs St
Rochester NY 14604-2599
United States

Ecole de Jazz et de Musique Actuelle Rue de Geneve 3
Lausanne 1004
Switzerland

Elder Conservatorium of Music University of Adelaide
Adelaide 5005
Australia

Elmhurst College 190 Prospect
Elmhurst IL 60126
United States

Elon University Music Dept., Campus Box 2800
Elon NC 27244
United States

Emporia State University Box 29
Emporia KS 66801
United States

EMU Education Musical Calle 60 nro 813
La Plata 1900
Argentina

Escola de Jazz do Barreiro Rua Dr. Eusébio Leão 11
Barreiro 2830-343
Portugal

Escola de Musica de Bellaterra C/Ramon Llull 14-16
Bellaterra 08193
Spain

Escola Superior de Música de Catalunya Berenguer de Palou, 104
Barcelona 08027
Spain

Escuela de Musica Creativa Palma 35
Madrid 28004
Spain

Escuela de Musica Jazz Bermingham 6 bajo
San Sebastián 20002
Spain

Escuela de Musica Moderna Rua Vieja 20
Logroño Spain

Escuela de Nuevas Musicas Corregidor Diego de Valderrabanos 59
Madrid 28030
Spain

Estonian Jazz Foundation P.O.box 3641
Tallinn 2 E0090
Estonia

Estudio Escola de Musica Neira de Mosquera, 7
Santiago 15702
Spain

Fairfield University 1073 N. Benson Road
Fairfield CT 06824
United States

FIH Raudagerdi 27
Reykjavik 108
Iceland

Finnish Conservatoire Pitkäkatu 19-21
Jyväskylä 40700
Finland

Five Towns College 305 N. Service Road
Dix Hills NY 11746
United States

Flaluta De Hamelin/Centra de Ensino Musica Rua Antonio Jose Lisboa, 80 Montelios
Braga 4700
Portugal

Florida Community College at Jacksonville 11901 Beach Boulevard
Jacksonville FL 32246
USA

Florida International University School of Music, 11200 SW 8th Street, WPAC 12
Miami FL 33199
United States

Florida Southern College 111 Lake Hollingsworth Rd.
Lakeland FL 33801
United States

Florida State University School of Music, 132 North Copeland St.
Tallahassee FL 32306-1180
United States

FMW Frankfurter Musikwerkstatt Edisonstrasse 8
Frankfurt am Main 60388
Germany

Folkwang Hochschule Essen Klemensborn 39
Essen 45239
Germany

Fredonia College, SUNY Fredonia NY 14063
United States

Fresno City College Jazz Studies, 1101 E. University Ave.
Fresno CA 93741
United States

Fullerton College 321 E. Chapman Ave.
Fullerton CA 92832-2095
United States

Fundació Aula de Musica del Liceu Montornés 37
Barcelona 08023
Spain

Furman University Department of Music, 3300 Pointsett Highway
Greenville SC 29613
United States

George Mason University Department of Music, 3E3
Fairfax VA 22030-4444
United States

Georgetown University Music Department, 37th and O Streets, NW
Washington DC 20007
United States

Georgia State University School of Music, PO Box 4097
Atlanta GA 30302-4097
United States

Georgia State University School of Music, POB 4097
Atlanta GA 30302-4097
United States

Goddard College Goddard College
Plainfield VT United States

Goucher College 1021 Dulaney Valley Road
Baltimore MD 21204-2794
United States

Grambling State University Music Department DH 26, PO Box 4238
Grambling LA 71245
United States

Grand Rapids Junior College 143 Bostwick NE
Grand Rapids MI 49503
United States

Guildhall School of Music and Drama Silk Street, Barbican
London EC2Y 8DT
UK

Gyula Erkel State Music School Istvan ter 21
Budapest 1041
Hungary

Hampton University Department of Music
Hampton VA 23668
United States

Harrison School of Music 21777 Ventura Blvd. #263-265
Woodland Hills CA 91364
United States

Hartford Conservatory 834 Asylum Ave.
Hartford CT 06105
United States

Hed Music Center Alpert 3
Yehud 54000
Israel

Helsinki Polytechnic, Faculty of Culture and Services Hämeentie 161
Helsinki 00560
Finland

Helsinki Pop & Jazz Conservatory Arabiankatu 2
Helsinki 00560
Finland

Hochschule der Künste Berlin Postfach 120544
Berlin 10595
Germany

Hochschule für musik Dresden Wettiner Platz 13
Dresden 01067
Germany

Hochschule für Musik Frankfurt Eschersheimer Landstrasse 29
Frankfurt 60322
Germany

Hochschule für Musik 'Franz Liszt' Weimar Platz der Demokratie 2/3
Weimar 99421
Germany

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Hannover 30175
Germany

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Berlin 10117
Germany

Hochschule für Musik Köln Pützbroicher Str. 13
Königswinter 53639
Germany

Hogeschool Constantijn Huygens Aan de Stadsmuur 88
Zwolle 8011 VD
Netherlands

Hogeschool Maastricht, Music Department Bonnefantenstraat 15
Maastricht 6211 KL
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Hogeschool voor de Kunsten Utrecht Mariaplaats 27
Utrecht 3511 LL
Netherlands

Hot Club de Portugal Travessa de Galé, 36-1
Lisboa 1300
Portugal

Houston Community College Westchester Campus, 901 Yorkchester
Houston TX 77079
United States

Howard University 2455 6th Street NW
Washington DC 20059
United States

Howard University College of Arts and Sciences, Jazz Studies Department., 2400 6th St. NW
Washington DC 20059
United States

Humber College 3199 Lakeshore Blvd., W.
Toronto, ONT M8V 1K8
Canada

Hunter College of CUNY Department of Music, 695 Park Avenue
New York NY 10021
United States

Hutchinson Community College 1300 N. Plum Street
Hutchinson KS 67501
United States

Illinois State University Campus box 5660
Normal IL 61790-5660
USA

Indiana University Jacobs School of Music School of Music, 1201 E. 3rd St.
Bloomington IN 47405
United States

Indiana University of Pennsylvania Music Dept.
Indiana PA 15705
United States

International Music School 4 rue de Beaubourg
Paris 75004
France

Ionian University, Department of Music Old Fortress
Corfu 49100
Greece

Irish World Music Centre University of Limerick
Limerick Ireland

Ithaca College School of Music, 3322 Whalen Center for Music
Ithaca NY 14850
United States

Jackson State University Dept. of Music, PO Box 17055
Jackson MS 39217
United States

Jacksonville State University 700 Pelham Rd. North
Jacksonville AL 36265
United States

James Madison University School of Music, 800 S. Main Street, MSC 7301
Harrisonburg VA 22807
United States

Jazz & Rock Schule Freiburg Ferdinand-Weiss-str. 6a
Freiburg 79106
Germany

Jazz Studio Tritonus De Vrierestraat 17/19
Antwerpen 2000
Belgium

Jazz.edu - Hochschule für Musik Basel - Abteilung Jazz Reinacherstrasse 105
Basel 4053
Switzerland

Jazz-India Vocal Institute C/o Niranjan Jhaveri, 26 BG Kher Marg
Bombay 400006
India

Jazzschool 2375 Shattuck Avenue
Berkeley CA 94704
United States

Jazzschule Berlin Chorinerstrasse 32
Berlin 10435
Germany

Jazzschule Zürich Waldmannstrasse 12
Zürich 8001
Switzerland

Jerusalem Rubin Academy Givat Ram Campus
Jerusalem 91904
Israel

Johnson State College 337 College Hill
Johnson VT 05656-9464
United States

Kaliningrad Regional Music College Frunze, 4
Kaliningrad 236006
Russia

Karntner Landeskonservatorium Miesstalerstrasse 8
Klagenfurt 9020
Austria

Kennedy-King College 688 S. Wentworth
Chicago IL 60621
United States

Kim Nazaretov Jazz Music School Centre 40 let Pobeda av. 318/1
Rostov on Don 344111
Ukraine

Kirkwood Community College Dept. of Music, 6301 Kirkwood Blvd. SW, PO Box 2068
Cedar Rapids IA 52406-2068
United States

Knox College Box 44
Galesburg IL 61401
United States

Koninklijk Vlaams Conservatorium Desguinlei 25
Antwerpen 2018
Belgium

Konservatorium Wien D'Orsay-gasse 8
Wien 1090
Austria

Koyo Conservatory Kobe 4-9-22, Yahata-cho, Nada-ku,
Kobe City 657-0051
Japan

Kutztown University of Pennsylvania Department of Music
Kutztown PA 19530
United States

L.A. Music Academy 370 S. Fair Oaks Avenue
Pasadena CA 91105
United States

Lamar University PO Box 10044, Department of Music, Theatre & Dance
Beaumont TX 77710
United States

Laney College Music Dept., 900 Fallon St.
Oakland CA 94607
United States

Lawrence University Conservatory of Music, 420 East College Avenue, P.O. Box 599
Appleton WI 54911-0599
United States

Leeds College of Music 3 Quarry Hill
Leeds LS2 7PD
UK

Lehigh University Music Department, Zoellner Arts Center, 420 East Packer Avenue
Bethlehem PA 18018
United States

LeMoyne-Owen College 807 Walker Ave.
Memphis TN 38126
USA

Leonid Chizhik Jazz Center ul. Serafimovicha 2, 1 pod
Moscow 109072
Russia

Liszt Ferenc Academy of Music Liszt Ferenc tér 8
Budapest 1061
Hungary

London College of Music St. Mary's Road
London W5 5RF
UK

Longy School of Music 1 Follen Street
Cambridge MA 02138
United States

Los Medanos College 2700 E. Leland Road
Pittsburg CA 94565
United States

Loyola University Music Dept. - 6363 St. Charles Ave. Box 8
New Orleans LA 70118
United States

Manhattan School of Music 120 Claremont Avenue
New York NY 10027
United States

Mars Hill College Department of Music
Mars Hill NC 28754
USA

Marshall University 1 John Marshall Drive
Huntington WV 25755
United States

McNally Smith College of Music 19 Exchange Street East
Saint Paul MN 55101
United States

McNeese State University PO Box 93175
Lake Charles LA 70609
United States

Mesa Community College Music Dept., 1833 W. Southern Ave.
Mesa AZ 85202
United States

Miami Dade College Wolfson Campus, 300 NE 2nd Avenue
Miami FL 33132
United States

Michigan State University Jazz Studies Program, 102 Music Building
East Lansing MI 48824
United States

Middle Tennessee State University PO Box 47
Murfreesboro TN 37132
United States

Millersville University POB 1002, Music Dept.
Millersville PA 17551-0302
United States

Millikin University 1184 W. Main
Decauter IL 62522
United States

Montclair State University Preparatory Center for the Arts, Music Division
Upper Montclair NJ 07043
United States

Montgomery College Dept. of Music, 51 Mannakee St.
Rockville MD 20850
United States

Moravian College 1200 Main St.
Bethlehem PA 18018
United States

Moravian College 1200 Main St.
Bethlehem PA 18018-6650
United States

Morehead State University 120 Baird Music Hall
Morehead KY 40351
United States

Moscow College of Improvised Music Prospect Andropova 48, bld-2
Moscow 115487
Russia

Mount Royal College, Conservatory of Music 4825 Richard Road S.W.
Calgary, Alberta T3E 6K6
Canada

Mt. Hood Community College 26000 S.E. Stark Street
Gresham OR 97030
United States

Music Conservatory of Trondheim Olav Trygva Sons gt. 2 - Olavskvartalet
Trondheim 7001
Norway

Music University Graz Mosehofgasse 39-41
Graz 8010
Austria

Musica Oggi Corso Venezia 7
Milano 20121
Italy

Musicians Institute 1655 McCadden Pl.
Hollywood CA 90028
United States

Music-Lab Freiburger Strasse 2
Emmendingen 79312
Germany

Musikhochschule Luzern Mariahilfgasse 2A
Luzern 5 6000
Switzerland

Naropa University 2130 Arapahoe Avenue
Boulder CO 80302
United States

Neue Jazzschule München Hellebrunnerstrasse 30
München 81543
Germany

New England Conservatory 290 Huntington Ave
Boston MA 02115
United States

New Jersey City University Dept. of Music, 2039 Kennedy Blvd.
Jersey City NJ 07305-1597
United States

New World School of the Arts 300 Northeast 2nd Avenue
Miami FL 33132-2297
United States

New York University, The Steinhardt School of Education Department of Music and Performing Arts Professions, 35 West 4th St, Suite 777
New York NY 10012
United States

Newpark Music Centre Newton Park Avenue, Blackrock
County Dublin Ireland

Nordjysk Musik-Konservatorium Ryesgade 52
Aalborg 9000
Denmark

North Carolina Central University PO box 19406
Durham NC 27707
United States

North Carolina School for the Arts 1533 S. Main Street
Winston-Salem NC 27127
United States

North Central College 30 N. Brainard Street
Naperville IL 60540
United States

Northeast Community College 801 East Benjamin
Norfolk NE 68702-0469
United States

Northern Arizona University Jazz Studies Office, PO Box 6040
Flagstaff AZ 86011
United States

Northern Illinois University School of Music
DeKalb IL 60115
United States

Northwest College Music Dept., 231 W. 6th St.
Powell WY 82435
United States

Northwestern College 101 7th St. SW
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Post by hubird »

You may love jazz/fusion, nothing wrong with that, it obviously is where your heart is ;-) but there's a lot of tax involved to keep that education circuit alive...apart from the question if this type of 'gouvernamental support' makes the music involved any better, on the contrary one could easily argue.

The same for institutes like classical music or opera.

All these styles would immediately die out if you close the crane and let the market rule :-D

I don't say there wouldn't be a reason to keep these musical forms alife in the way it's organized and financed these days, but that second list at least doesn't prove so much in the context of if a style is alife or not.
Give me monthly mony year after year and I imediately will give up my job and spend all my time in my little studio.
Does that make or keep electronic music alife?

Sociologically spoken that second list -tho impressive- says more about the way the ruling social and political establishment of a society always seems to be able (ánd justified) to protect so well their highly sofisticated but also in a way artificial culture.

Imagine what would happen if all that mony would be spent on more experimental and progressive tendencies.
California University Techno department, Michigan University Scool of Drum'nBass, Princeton College of Noise'nBeats...etc. :-D
Well, at least here in Holland we have a real 'Rock College' where you have to study hard to get your paper.
And yes, it's terrible what comes out there, musically spoken :-D

But you definitely win the longest-quote-ever trofee :lol:
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Post by Nestor »

Hey Cool Hub! :) But you should have a second look at the second list, as there are many schools there that are not completely sponsored by the state of such and such a country, and you have to pay to get into them. Your statement goes well with the university ones, particularly.

Now, let’s get some maths on it:

Average, there are about 100 students per school. But there are also in this list schools with up to 4.500 students... this is big, isn’t it? This means that quite a few of them will create new groups, new music and most probably, after a few years, new styles into jazz. Variations if you like.

True, I like jazz very much, but it is not the only thing I like in the world, I like many more styles and nevertheless as said before, jazz is so, so open, that you can travel the world through, and you’ll find things completely apart from each other, and still they are considered jazz.

With this list, despite your point of view, which is rather political than musical, you cannot deny that to say that “jazz is death” is just a false statement, it is just not true as this maths can demonstrate...

There is an average of 50 important jazz clubs in every big city of the world... These pubs and small clubs are active every day, except on Mondays. This happens even in a place like Chile, a country where little people like jazz, even here you can get jazz “every day” in those pubs I’m talking about.

That means that about 5000 jazz concerts are going on, every day... and they get multiplied by the end of the week. And we are including Asia, where there is a strong jazz activity too, in pubs and the so, but they hardly get to most developed countries as groups as their jazz seems not to be as good as the one made in Europe and USA. Now, if you put, let say, as little as 50 attendants per gig, we are already talking about 250.000 people per performance, per day. This goes easily to about 500.000 at weekends.

Sure, it is not as big as what it happens in other styles of music, like rock, that moves tens of millions of people every single week around the world over, not to say about Pop, wow... that’s mad! But it is more than enough to say that jazz is alive and kicking, for generations to come. There is nobody in this forum, or out of it, that will actually “see” with his eyes the end of Jazz.

As I said, jazz is not fashion music, and it truly comes from sorrow and pain. Sorrow and pain is not disappearing from the world, they are here to stay, and they both seem to increment every day...

Jazz will die the day mankind decides to suicide themselves.
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Nestor wrote:Jazz will die the day mankind decides to suicide themselves.
And all culture will...
How are you doing old man? :-)
Seriously, I love real jazz and improvising music.
Happily the Duch tellie every now and then but mostly late at night shows quality documentaries or North Sea Jazz concerts etc., so I know a few names :-)
But always it are those blackandwhite recordings of clubs from the fifties that make me hypnotized.

Let alone older recordings, yes Billy H.

Yet, I may do suicide but not for jazz ;-)
Jazz is all over the place and is and will be essential in a millons of songs, but as a musical-sociological factor with clear social and political roots it's gone long time ago IMHO.
Not that this makes today jazz inferior or less' justified', it just wants to say maybe that devellopment has got 'intellectual', in an ever going-on 'exchange of thoughts'.
The same will happen with electronic music or whatever style.
When the power of a certain generation behind it will die out (in the clubs then ;-)) the music will die also, essentially.
Not too bad btw. :-D

Who cared about the death of James Brown, once a symbol of the new (black) power generation of the seventies who was capable to mobilize millions?...
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Post by Michu »

can we please move on to the next page, so one doesn't have to scroll thru Nestor's excessive cut'n'paste list :P

In my town there is a place that continues to organize jazz concerts of varying profile. the rule of thumb is, that the more recognized the jazz artist is, the more tie wearing twits will use up the air during the gig :roll:
also, the place really makes it thanks to weekly house/dance event that fills up the cash register.
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Post by Mr Arkadin »

Michu wrote:In my town there is a place that continues to organize jazz concerts
Next time i'm over you'll have to take me there :lol: . Make sure it's a house night though ;)
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Post by Michu »

oi Tony, i've mentioned that place because it is a book example, there are a few other worth checking out that you haven't see ;)
for a dancey nite i'd rather rely on the girl team, i'm not so good at that ;)
you wouldn't want to see the house nite, a few years ago some dude was stabbed to death there by 'the usual suspects' :P
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Re: Why is Jazz hated so much here?

Post by Atomic Marshmallow »

paulrmartin wrote:
I have a few interesting questions which might start a nice debate:

1. What is it about jazz that turns you off?

At the risk of getting some flak from jazz lovers and other genres of music, here are my answers to your questions.

First of all, I like some jazz, but a lot of it sounds horrible. Ok, I can appreciate the musicianship, but it's the almost predictable G13b9 modulating to a Cmaj7#11, or whatever it bloody is. The poncy chord progressions with the predictable gaps and stabby quick bits at the end (if you know what I mean).

paulrmartin wrote:
2. What do you think could make jazz more interesting to your ears?

Have a bit more balls and oomph!!! Ok, there are loads of players with balls and oomph, but then they spoil it with-see answer 1 above.

paulrmartin wrote:
3. Do you really think that jazz is so different than a lot of electronic music going around that thrives on improvising with a controller instead of a "real" instrument?(as far as I'm concerned, it's just a difference in language but the spirit of execution is the same)

In short, yes. Maybe the spirit of execution is the "same", but the sound textures are totally different. I am no fan of pure electronic music either though because it lacks the musianship of jazz players.

Frank Gambale or Alan Holdsworth are guitar players I really admire when it comes to their soloing. Both are phenomenal, but as far as listening to their songs/compositions or whatever you want to call them, that is a different matter. Great solos, shit compositions that bore me to tears.

Basically my tastes are generally eclectic. I like what I consider to be the best bits of all genres of music, apart from (and please don't get upset if you don't agree with me-it's just my opinion) South American music like bossa nova, tango etc... or Romanian/Bulgarian etc.... folk music. I just can't stand listening to that stuff !!!!!

I mean no offence to anyone. Just sharing my opinions.
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Post by paulrmartin »

Marshmallow,

I am a fan of Gambale and Holdsworth as well and I have the exact same gripe about their composing abilities.

As for Bossas, I saw Antonio Carlos Jobim live and fell in love with his daughter (Elisabeth, I think). I'm a big fan of Michael Franks as well.

Bulgarian music! Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares still sends shivers down my spine. I wish I understood that music more!
Are we listening?..
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Post by Atomic Marshmallow »

paulrmartin wrote:Marshmallow,

I am a fan of Gambale and Holdsworth as well and I have the exact same gripe about their composing abilities.
Whatever you do, don't express that opinion on the Frank Gambale Forum. You will be metaphorically hunted down, hung drawn and quartered and your head impaled on a spike outside the city gates.

I basically said what I expressed in my previous post and got banned from the forum after some debates with other members. I can no longer make posts there as they blocked my IP address access to make posts and they removed all the posts that I had made before. They thought I was being a troll. Frank Gambale himself even had a dig at me.

I can promise you that I was not being a troll and was civil at all times. The only "crime" I committed was defending my views (in a polite manner. I never resorted to abuse or bad language once, despite me getting a barrage of insults) and refusing to kow-tow to Frank Gambale. It makes me hate his music even more now.

The forum moderator though seems to be a right wing extreme fascist who can't handle "criticism" or people who don't share his views on the "great" Frank Gambale.

But that's my side of the story. No doubt, he or they will see it differently.
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Post by hubird »

Historically spoken it's rather remarkable that very abstract music like electronic music got so popular all over the world.

Paul, you know those 'classical' composers from the fifties in -was it- Köln who experimented with combining 'sampled' sounds on tape, electronic circuits with choir parts etc., I lost names here (Stockhausen?.

It was of course rather demanding from the public, but the degree of abstraction was even lower than in much electronic music of today.

Well, my point is, it's (obviously) the ultimate dance character of electronic music that does the trick.
Rhythm is easier to pick up than melody and harmony, at least if these get (too) complicated for the average listener.

And let's face it, you need a very good develloped musical ear to be able to follow the melodical and harmonic structures that Jazz and other sophisticated styles of music offer.

Even the rhytmic part of jazz is complicated, and classical music even doesn't have a rhythm (oops, not true of course, but I often can't find it, even not when looking at the weird gestures the conductor is showing :-D ).
By definition it's a relative minority which can understand and appreciate that kind of music.

Yet I don't think much z'ers will say to' hate' jazz, even if they don't listen to it volentary.

You should feel pride and 'chosen', you belong to an exclusive part of human mankind which has the gift of understanding and enjoying a highly develloped
kind of music, in fact we all are jalous!
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Hey Hubird! :)

Great post, very well explaind and now, I understand you very well, of course I agree with your statments as they are precise and objetive to what happens to the music as time goes by.

Michu:

You made me laugh, yea, this page will have to turn

Atomic Marshmallow:

I don’t think you will bother anyone here cos of your musical tastes, at all. Nevertheless, I don’t either like “tango”, and I am Argentinean, but I truly love Astor Piazzolla, please, listen to this very song: “Adiós Nonino”, (sort of “Bye Granpa”)You will love it! He wrote it immediately after the death of his grandfather, this is a kind of tango that goes well beyond the boring old tango.

I too agree with you and Paul about Frank Gambale or Alan Holdsworth, but not as much as that, they have some songs that are truly nice too. But they definitely play better than they compose.

Paul:

I too love like crazy these very one: Le Mystère des Voix Bulgares, it is mesmerizing.

Wow, how can I enjoy this forum God...
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Nestor, I've got a question about random address no. 666 in your long list there.....
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hubird wrote:
And let's face it, you need a very good develloped musical ear to be able to follow the melodical and harmonic structures that Jazz and other sophisticated styles of music offer...........................................................................................................

You should feel pride and 'chosen', you belong to an exclusive part of human mankind which has the gift of understanding and enjoying a highly develloped
kind of music, in fact we all are jalous!
I believe I do have a "sophisticated" ear for music, but jazz often doesn't hit the mark for me. Though as I said, I like some jazz and can appreciate the musicianship. To me, it's really about personal aesthetics and taste. I don't believe it has to do with my lack of understanding of the genre. Some people like red and some prefer green. I think it simply boils down to that. However, the subject of aesthetics is a huge philosophical debate.
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Atomic Marshmallow wrote:To me, it's really about personal aesthetics and taste. I don't believe it has to do with my lack of understanding of the genre. Some people like red and some prefer green. I think it simply boils down to that.
Exactly what i've been trying to say. Seriously some of the music i listen to would sound like noise to a lot of people (i'm thinking Glenn Branca) or just 'out of tune' (Harry Partch). To me they sound normal, so Jazz certainly presents no intellectual challenge for me, i'm reasonably musically educated and have broad tastes. As i've said before it just doesn't give me that gut feeling that makes me want to listen to it - in fact i find a lot of it very boring and probably prefer the Trad stuff rather than the modern fusion noodlers. For some reason it just doesn't 'connect' with me. i do however think it is an important genre and i'm glad it's there, i just won't be listening to much of it :D .
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Atomic Marshmallow wrote:
paulrmartin wrote:Marshmallow,

I am a fan of Gambale and Holdsworth as well and I have the exact same gripe about their composing abilities.
Whatever you do, don't express that opinion on the Frank Gambale Forum. You will be metaphorically hunted down, hung drawn and quartered and your head impaled on a spike outside the city gates.

I basically said what I expressed in my previous post and got banned from the forum after some debates with other members. I can no longer make posts there as they blocked my IP address access to make posts and they removed all the posts that I had made before. They thought I was being a troll. Frank Gambale himself even had a dig at me.

I can promise you that I was not being a troll and was civil at all times. The only "crime" I committed was defending my views (in a polite manner. I never resorted to abuse or bad language once, despite me getting a barrage of insults) and refusing to kow-tow to Frank Gambale. It makes me hate his music even more now.

The forum moderator though seems to be a right wing extreme fascist who can't handle "criticism" or people who don't share his views on the "great" Frank Gambale.

But that's my side of the story. No doubt, he or they will see it differently.
I got the same treatment for telling Alain Caron he can't write compose worth a damn anymore. His last album "5" is a piece of crap and I told him to ask his musician friends to write tune for him. My message got erased, just like that. I'm not surprised, I come from the same part of the world as Alain and he is reknown for his head not fitting through doors....
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paulrmartin wrote:
I got the same treatment for telling Alain Caron he can't write compose worth a damn anymore. His last album "5" is a piece of crap and I told him to ask his musician friends to write tune for him. My message got erased, just like that. I'm not surprised, I come from the same part of the world as Alain and he is reknown for his head not fitting through doors....
C'est la même chose pour FG. Il a aussi une tête grande. Sorry, couldn't resist attempting that sentance in French.
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Shroomz wrote:Nestor, I've got a question about random address no. 666 in your long list there.....
I don't get that, sorry, what do you mean?
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Don't make me post my longer list of colleges that have barbershop quartets. Even the women are doing it.

More colleges teach Latin. Otherwise known as a "dead language".
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Hi Paul - i tried to get into your website to listen 2 yr music - no luck! i got an error message - is it up and running?
i think your questions are great and are asking for views as much as facts. Some people go into great effort with long lists. well, i guess thats useful too. :roll:
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