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digitalaudiosoft · Post by **digitalaudiosoft** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:47 am

here is the mail from salvatore aka djmicron !

Hello,
i don't know the true name, but the planetz user that has informed me
is shroomz.
I know he is a graphic designer and he has done the gui of my cat modules.
He is involved with mccyrano in developing some new device, so i think
that mccyrano is 99% the informer and mccyrano is the only one sdk
developer that was frightened by my planetz post about the bug and he
have never asked me how the bug works, because he know how and all its
devices are 100% protected.....
Regards

Salvatore

Post by **irrelevance** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:42 pm

digitalaudiosoft wrote:
scope4live wrote:I wonder if Eric is the liason between Fairlight Europe amd DAS? ..............NOT.
you wonder ? and i can say : yes i'm !

bye

eric

Oh dear...You better get yourself onto an account management 101 course mate. Customer contact skills are currently in the minus!
Or mabye the only important customers in your mind are the "big names". I'm sure you'll figure out which target audience pays the bills

Anyway, why are you still here..?

bye.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:45 pm

Don't worry irrelevance, i'm sure when dealing with the big names there's a lot of brown-nosing going on, it's only us unimportant low-lifes he talks down to.

Post by **hubird** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:46 pm

Which made me think, why not sending EMT-Fairlight Europ a message about the way one of their associates behave on a well respected internet forum, specially regarding the infamous french text of above...
Can't believe any company loves to see any commercial relative behave like that.
Maybe they can do something about it...

To be sure to have the text available, here's the quote.

pour tout ceux qui ne lisent pas les topics comme il le faut !
ou voyez vous que je cite des noms,les noms des enfoirés dont parle cet enfoiré de manipulateur d'astroman ? ils se sont sentis attaqués car ils sont reellement responsables d'avoir oter les dispositifs de protections de certains devices creamware ! ce con l'a meme ecrit et il vous explique ,en plus, comment il le fait ,et il s'est bien gardé d'en informer les dev concernés ! hypochrites de merdes ! vive les forums !
le probleme est que des dev comme wolf,orbitone,das,celmo et d'autres sont des victimes de ces enfoirés ! putain ! mais depuis quand on blame les dev qui se font pirater et l'on felicite les enfoirés qui font ces saloperies ? redescendez sur terre tous autant que vous etes !
ces mecs ne sont que des embrouilleurs qui profitent de la non moderation d'un forum sur lequel des personnes biens co-existent avec des enfoirés,et ils ne sont là que pour foutre le bordel...logique ,vu leurs niveaux de competences

pour tous les potes de astroman et hubird : allez tous vous faire foutre et restez seul ,entre enfoiré,sur vos forums de merde!
vous avez gagnez ! quand il n'y aura plus de vrai dev,vous vous demerderez avec vos beaux plugs en eternelles versions betas gratuits,et qui sonnent comme des tas de merde.

ps: et a tous les autres dev ...la solidarité n'existe t'elle que chez ces putains d'enfoirés de pirates ?
heureusement que ceci n'existe pas lorsque l'on bosse avec des grosses structures comme TF1 ou Fairlight ...c'est sans doute pour ça que je n'ai plus envie de faire des plugs pour des amateurs qui brassent quand un plug n'est pas gratuit !

a bon entendeur ,salut

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:06 pm

that would just be daft.

Post by **hubird** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:22 pm

I don't deny that, but mud makes dirty, and who's throwing it?

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:33 pm

The Democrats here in the USA could use your tactics in the '08 Presidentail race.

Post by **hubird** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:49 pm

or the Republicans could, for that matter...

Listen, consider this:

1. it's obviously a last entry attempt, as everything else fails.
At the same time the accusations are rather serious.
You think Tom is about taking juridical steps for fun??

2. I announce it in public, I don't try to keep it anonimously.

3. If the DAS folks really think they do the right thing, they have nothing to fear. Or?
If so, then it's me who get's the ball, which is 'me' not really waiting for.

cheers, a fucking pirate.

(Respecting your opinion, as that's not the point.
I can handle a debate

).

Post by **hubird** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:08 pm

done already, on personal account of course.

If EMT reacts professional -and they will- they will eighter simply not answer me, or they will explain not to wanne to get involved anyway.
After all, they are 'just' distributing the D*S Broadcasting line.

What possibly then will happen behind the curtains can only bring good.

At max D*S will be asked to act more professional, or to get them some pro PR.
Quod erat rogandum.

Right?

cheers.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:33 pm

I compare these incidents to someone shooting their own foot during a hunting stint in the great outdoors. Your goal is to return w/ some food. Instead you come back injured, and have no food. A waste of precious time IMHO.

Regardless Of The Immature Nature Of These Arguements, I hope John Cooper doesn't have to waste his time reminding anyone about proper behavior here.

I appreciate the fact that Shroomz is too busy making great SDK devices for you guys to allow himself to be drug into this quicksand, where evryone wants the last final word that never comes.

Let's All Do The Honorable Thing, Focus On The Road Ahead.

Post by **hubird** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:44 pm

yet and still you are using 'pirated plugs', or at least you are using plugs by 'pirating SDK devellopers'...
That's a fact Jimmy, if you want it or not...if D*S is right.

Shroomz just does what a serious (professional) develloper should do in this context, namely not reacting at all.
Like all devellopers do.
Hat off for all (SDK) devellopers!

D*S should take that as a guide to handle.

scope4live wrote: I hope John Cooper doesn't have to waste his time reminding anyone about proper behavior here.

You never really addresses that to D*S, don't you?
That's amazing actually, as it's explicitely D*S which is using hard core language, isn't it? (like f*cking pirates).
Name one single expression by me or someone else who participated in the current conflict that is identical or just rude.
Just one...
cheers.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:03 pm

hubird wrote:... You think Tom is about taking juridical steps for fun??
....

no, he isn't - there is no such quote announcing a lawsuit in Gladiator...

when I'm deadserious I wouldn't want to rely on official institutions anyway
For now I've edited an indiscrete post somewhat, and all I expect is that DAS revokes the lie that I ever had the intention to use one of their devices without a license.

If I didn't cross the steps of Germany's 'most attractive' supermarket for 25 years because I'm convinced the company s*cks, then don't tell me I cannot get along without the stuff of 2 french rudeboys.

scope4live wrote:... drug into this quicksand, where evryone wants the last final word that never comes...

I'm afraid you hit the nail on the head, but I really can't stand this attitude any more (I've moved from my position several times for peace's sake - and that is something I don't appreciate at all...)
And I don't subscribe at all that a kid can shout deliberately until mum or dad buys the toy.

cheers, Tom

Post by **hubird** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:44 pm

scope4live wrote:Regardless Of The Immature Nature Of These Arguements, ...

Call them immature if you like, but what strikes me is that you seldom seem to take arguements seriously, as if they don't matter, you just wanne 'focus on the road ahead', because you hate conflicts.
I could call denying a conflict 'immature'.

digitalaudiosoft · Post by **digitalaudiosoft** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:48 pm

hey all of you ! scope4live is not me !

please,if you want to flame a member,i'm here for that,and you like it,so...go on...

let him in peace.

thanks jimmy.

eric

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:13 pm

Let's all have a virtual beer / bong together guys, and try to enjoy each other. I understand the problems that have been created, it is sad. But @ the end of the day, we all have Scope, and it's creations from all developers. I can't fathom a way to be upset about that.

Peace and Incense,

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:32 am

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:49 am

everybody is entitled to an opinion, but not all has the wish paint it out in black print hubird.

im not taking any side here, i dont feel the need to, just like a lot of other users. i just think its awkward that noone just made one topic int the "off topic" section and continued the rant there, instead of seeing this rant spread over everything DAS ever types. Nobodys perfect hubird, you know that as well as i do. People makes mistakes all the time, some minor and some major.

And seeing this discussion is really about 5-8 people, it should be possible for you guys to sort this issue out internally. then you can make an announcement of the outcome. everything inbetween is just annoying totally irrelevant.

Post by **hubird** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:19 am

piddi wrote:, instead of seeing this rant spread over everything DAS ever types.

Well, I gave Eric this reply when he started the Conspiracy thread in the General Scope forum:

Oh my G*D Eric, what are you doing now in this forum?
You are just repeating and quoting the same stuff as mentioned in the thread you point to??!!
Why don't you let Olive do the communication, you are just not able to handle it, and you know that.
Let's leave this thread for what it is guys

it should be possible for you guys to sort this issue out internally

I tried that, somewhere after the first exclations by Eric.
I wrote a friendly note to Olive, asking him to check out what his bussiness partner was doing, as I couldn't believe he would like that.
I mentioned this email note in the discussion also, but I never got a sign.

Nobodys perfect hubird, you know that as well as i do. People makes mistakes all the time, some minor and some major

You're right about that.
The problem with D*S is they are not communicating.
Even if SpaceF, a pro collegue after all, explains that the protection leak even not can be called a bug, D8S doesn't pick anything up.
Making mistakes is one thing, learning by listening is another.

Only -and just only- after I told them to send a message to EMT (which I actually did) they got reasonable - Astroman is said to be not pirating (?), and the flow of accusing D*S posts seems to be over(?).
Purely occasionally of course...

cheers

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:23 am

Could someone repost the trick! I seemed to have missed it. It would save me tons of $$$$$!!!!

*grin*

*hides under table*

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:31 am

with all respect Piddi, you're a bit too balanced here...

someone posted that a few members belong 'removed from this nice community hopefully soon' and simultaneously went fishing for compliments in the 'Announcements' forum...
there was a rumor about hacking copy protection spread
later a well paying customer of many 3rd parties was named 'pirate'

while you can ignore the last point, the 2 remaining would not only cause misinformation at any of the less 'technical' oriented users, but also yield nice google scores...

with only few discussion skills most of this could have been avoided, but it's the very same pattern based on spreading the discussion all over the place and messing it up that's applied once again.
Obviously not completely unsuccessful, guessing from your complaint and from some questions I remember.
I will not start arguing, but I've seen better tricks than this...

cheers, Tom