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thanks for the response.
I wasn't suggesting that 'we' in Holland would do so good.
My aim was to show that if you just look closer and zoom in, you see a real life picture with moving and thinking people instead of smashed poor potatoes and a Stephen King-like armageddon constructed by a dreamer with an internet account.
Check my 'NB.'.

http://www.visionofhumanity.org/

maybe worth a look. there is also a list of endorsers for reference.

personally, i have little faith in such organizations.

i have more faith in the individual people with lives that hubird mentioned...

I sincerely wish things were much simpler than that, but they are not. Natural life is in a way very simple, but our social aims have complicated everything for us. I also wish we were closer to each other as people, as individuals, so communication could bring us the warmth of a more humanizing contact, that would be such a good thing. There is so much more to enjoy from life when there is friendship in state of controversial struggles that bring pain to the spirit…, it is beyond imagination the happiness and fulfillment of sincere and honest relationships. But many people are already so well codified that they cannot brake their pattern, which is sad… This is in fact, part of the falling itself, this lack of closeness, this selfishness that can only see its own interests without reasoning, without giving the chance of a new light.

I know that I will be one of the saddest beings on earth when all these things start to happen, and you can bet I will not be the one crying loud saying: “I won this competition of words, I had the reason, Europe is down and the war has started (and then chunckle at it)”. I would rather be sad with you and will simply share my impressions like now. I am disappointed that some people believe I am into such a superficial enterprise as convincing people, or preaching them in such or sucha way, I don’t know where this comes from honestly...

Anyway, every time I write anything, it is so predictable what is going to happen that I already know which will be the answer, it’s sort of a very delimited field of mind possibilities and understanding that goes from “0” to “5”. At the beginning, I would take it for real like a real conversation I mean, but today I know there is no point in talking with a robotic person that answers by the code like a programmed android. By the way, this is an important reason why all this is happening in the world, because of the programmed minds that have accepted all this wrong kind of life to build up through centuries. Now we are in trouble.

By the way, I think that nobody should be tempted to go to the London 2012 Olympic Games, just in case, as this is a perfect place for a false flag because the event will congregate people from the whole of the world into a single place. Yeah, what a perfect excuse for a big made up terrorist attack! I would not go there, not even for an assortment of the best 10 new bases worth $ 100.000! Iven if you include among them 3 Fodera!

Nestor wrote: I am disappointed that some people believe I am into such a superficial enterprise as convincing people, or preaching them in such or sucha way, I don’t know where this comes from honestly...

Honestly, I do.

We sure can dear friend, but we will go first for a period of devastation, so to be able to finally understand the true meaning of life, that for everyone may be different of course, that’s fine and perfectly understandable, but there are anyway parameters that nobody should ever deny, like the fact that “family” is extremely important, “friendship”, “respect”, “cultures”, “ethnicity”, “people’s believes”, “rights and justice”, “healthcare” “people’s natural happiness of existing”, “respect and care for animals and nature”, “fairness in education”, and “environmental care”, to name just a few very obvious things that are no longer obvious at all, AT ALL!!!, because these values or call them building blocks of wellbeing, have been destroyed for the sake of money and power. Yes we can, but for us to be able to start all over again and really succeed, we need for a start a total regeneration of ourselves as human beings, as society and thousands of paradigms will have to die first. We need an enormous shift of values because the values of our present society have shown to be ill and egoist, and have dragged us to the destruction of the very meaning of being alive. As long as money is more important than people, as long as egoism is more important than altruism, hearted more important and more prominent than love, we could start all over again one million times, and so we would fail another one million and one times… If there is no change in the foundation that created our present situation, these changes will amount to nothing, because we will make them based in our old decadent social archetypes that have already totally fail.

We truly need a new world order, but of goodness and understanding, because what this soulless people call the new world order is rather an old disordered world, and nothing but chaos.

etc. etc.

I always wanted to skip through fields of Lilies holding hands with North Koreans.

XITE-1/4LIVE wrote:I always wanted to skip through fields of Lilies holding hands with North Koreans.

Some more salt to the stew to achieve a great flavour, the cooking is getting ready, just sit to the table of reality and eat:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06 ... +-+Text%29

XITE-1/4LIVE wrote:I always wanted to skip through fields of Lilies holding hands with North Koreans.

not realistic I'm afraid, most probably they would have eaten the Lilies before.

I've never seen a cat or a dog over there come to think of it....

hubird wrote:

XITE-1/4LIVE wrote:I always wanted to skip through fields of Lilies holding hands with North Koreans.

not realistic I'm afraid, most probably they would have eaten the Lilies before.

i didn't know that they were into raves...

I left out the last part where I lead them to a Bear trap...

How important it is to have always a good sense of humor ready to be used..., just keep going

It looks like Spain is getting closer to a solving their difficulties!
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2012/06/09/ ... 339279225/

Well that's what makes the Government of Nevada small and not very powerful, and it's citizens for the most part self sufficient.
They don't tax us, gambling and prostitution pay the public Union Pensions, we can buy weed throught a loophole now, and people can drink alchohol in public or in the parks, we can carry concealed weapons. Right to work laws allow small businesses to start up, then once they grow have the option to bid on the large Union contracts, and join the Union.

Jimfuscious Says: Only the stupidest, and wisest of men never change......
So Spain should get out of peoiple way. Bring back the macho Bull Runs, and Bull fights, and screw all of that control freak political correctness crap.

The reality of the dangers we are talking about here continues to progress in its development

Banking union is coming up, as expected:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/fina ... union.html

Greece is sinking farther:
http://www.ft.com/home/uk

Russian nuclear submarines are prepared to sail to Syria, apparently, for a “test”:
http://en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20120619/174122108.html

Big move toward war preparation:
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=274425

Happily a ray of hope, not for the poor dog alas but for the smashed American potatoes, as Obamacare is declared to be constitutional.
On the elections gentlemen

constitutional?

it's nice. we are overcharged for healthcare and then an insurance plan is supposed to make it cost less.

garyb wrote:constitutional?

sorry, could be I translated too literally from Dutch, but you also read the news, so you know It means according the constitution.
or I'm missing something, could easily be.

For the rest: here in Europe Health care is functioning still very well since it's origin, after WWII.
Additions must be made because of the population aging, but that's a crossing mathematical variable.

A female news reporter on 'national' television once said: we in Europe sometimes must laugh about the emotional resistance against social health care. What are they making troubles about? It works here, accepted from low to high on societal scale as a matter of social justice [and saving mony on the long term, fact], what'd be wrong with it?

I know the very answers, don't worry, but it says something about the differences between E and A.
So no need to argue for me, but I'm sure the Americans, say in fifty years, will get used to it and see the advantages.
Normally you have to wait for 50 years to be sure, but now you can just check it, as it exists already, like in Canada and Europe.
Don't believe Fox, check a documentary from M.More about Canadian health care and what Fox says about it.
But you know already.