Brexit

[garyb]

ok, have it your way.

you want to go to war?

last chance to apologize and move forward....

[dawman]

so much crap in the street today... :

Remember when Obama got president?
The hatred was all over the place at the losers side of the elections back then. Tea Party, KKK, the racists...
Same stuff as now, worse even

You read wah too much crap media Hubrird.
KKK are racists and represent a fraction of a fraction must like the Black Panthers.
Thier lives are miserable and to spread thier misery thier goal is to use the lying media in hopes of people believing they number more than a few thousand.
Tea Party is anti Big Government, but now they have been infiltrated by Cash and no longer grassroots people trying to voice thier opinions.

Youre right about letting people blow off some steam.
But if they block traffic and bring grief to innocent people they betray thier own beliefs.

True protesters should go to the DNC and demand change.
Thanks to those liars the guy who could have beat Trump was plotted against and removed.
The wealthy Queen was selected for them.

Too bad the system doesnt allow outsiders a chance.
Gary Johnson ran the state of new Mexico like a champ.
Hillaryais a great fundraiser.
Not sure what Trump does other than piss people off.

[hubird]

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[garyb]

as i keep telling you, you misrepresented my words too many times, and this time, you put my name to it.
i told you not to do that, not to me and not to anyone else, and you responded with a childish "shut up, you're not the boss of me!". the fact that i haven't banned you speaks to my patience.

i'm not really upset. i would be if i was powerless, but i'm not powerless. if i do decide to ban you, then pastor can dislike me, if he wants to. i don't generally get mad if someone trolls me, but i can become competitive.

it's really simple hubird, don't put words into my mouth(or fingers). then, i won't ban you, even though you have little to do with Scope.

[hubird]

speak out if you have to say something, I even don't have a clue you're talking about.

Why are you playing the secret card?
I told you that I don't have a clue about why you're upset (as that's how read you).

'Apologize, last chance' you said.
Looks clear to me.
I find it very threatening to read such words from the moderator who is actually behaving as the center of political discussions.

[garyb]

look, i'm not gonna play this game.

do.
not.
attribute.
things.
to.
me.
that.
i.
never.
said.
period.

you know what i'm talking about. i have a wife, and i know the argument that seems to pick up in another place other than where it started. you used my name to make a point, and based the point on things that i never said. i told you not to do that because you were either misunderstanding or misrepresenting me, and you answered, "you do not control me properly. period "

but i still haven't banned you, even though i should do it right now.

as i keep saying,
let it go, or else.
this is my last, last, last, last warning. if you wish to discuss this privately, you are welcome to.

DO NOT DELETE YOUR WORK IN THIS THREAD, hubird. the thread is a testimony to how foolish we can be in a forum on the internet.

[hubird]

that post was clearly meant as a pm! It was a miserable mistake by me having it posted as a public post, caused by the wish to start from a quoting position.
I never delete my public posts here.
You did that once, all your posts over the first 16 pages, in that one long thread which got closed by JC.

[Nestor]

To push a good person into its nerves it is really stupid in the first place! And when it is a good-natured, friendly and tolerant person, it is also difficult to do! You need to work hard to achieve it, don’t you? And it is even worse when it is maliciously searched for, no matter what it is in discussion, because it is no longer a matter of “reasons” or “philosophies” to be properly defended, it is pure malice, it is the pleasure of a vicious mind who has totally lost its humanity. The point is that, it could be white, you go black, or it could be black, then you go white, the point is to piss off the person, literally, like those vicious kids that enjoy making their dog feel extremely angry, just for fun…

Warning: when you feel hatred inside yourself, you are in a bad corporal shape, you are developing different kind of poisons inside. Now, if you keep feeling hatred in a regular basis, your central nervous system gets a great deal of electrical pressure onto your organs, then your organs do not relax properly during the day, and the problem is that, neither while you sleep, so there is not a proper cellular regeneration. Tomorrow, as you are stupid enough to start all over again the same workings inside yourself, and because your body gets accustomed to this energy like if it was a drug, you will start looking for any excuse to get into this wrong and negative state of mind that will totally tense your body yet again, then crisp your central nervous system all over again. Your organs will start to suffer and you to feeling wasted… Under this nervous pressure, your blood gets particularly dirty and being dirty, needs to be cleaned much more than usual, so your liber must do an extra effort to depurate your dirt…, but there is a big problem… you are so tense that your liber cannot do it in due time, not even at night, because your nervous system never relax like needed, so you start to accumulate tension and dirt, so acidification into your body, getting older faster, ill and tired. Well…. Congratulations… there it is the whole of your stupid, empty and absolutely minigless day, week, month, year, and most probably, ENTIRE LIFE…, through which you kill yourself softly… There could be a better choice, but for a better choice, we need some good will… but… honestly, I don't see any whatsoever...

[hubird]

you was hateful when you spoke about the crap, the demonstrators.
I made this post:

here's something for us all:
Don't Move To Canada Just Yet

For those who'd have preferred Clinton: it is definitely therapeutic, and possibly a bit healing.

And for the victory cryers: it is doubtles strongly confirming their feelings of revenge and joy, seeing and hearing the suffering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evVKFFL1iTs
it's well done

[garyb]

i'm not interested in any more he said, she said...

[hubird]

formula:
1Nestor+1Garyb=1

[garyb]

i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt one more time, hubird. i'm going to figure that you've been up all night stressing out and that you haven't learned not to post while drunk.

Nestor, don't talk about him, please. he's not going to mention others except to agree or disagree with a specific RELEVANT point in a discussion. this really needs to be the end of the distraction. one can't talk about politics or anything else if we just talk about each other.

[Nestor]

Nestor, don't talk about him, please. he's not going to mention others except to agree or disagree with a specific RELEVANT point in a discussion. this really needs to be the end of the distraction. one can't talk about politics or anything else if we just talk about each other.

Fine with me Gary, no problem.

As you can see, I don’t argue any more since a long time now. But I don't like when the line is crossed in such a way, so I tend to defend you or anyone else when this happens.

[garyb]

and so he does what he always does. he raised a ruckus and then erased the evidence.

that calls for a big bottle of troll-be-gone spray.

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[Nestor]

Ok, let's move on now.

How are Mexican reacting there? I have lots of friends in Mexico, but not living in USA, but in Mexico itself. What is going on right now for them legally?

[guppy]

Congrats for people choice in United States
I love seeing democrats rethoric being fascist now
And i'm laughing seeing an egocentric female singer that uses to sing front of children with a finger in the pussy crying for her lost fight
democracy is only valuable when they win lol
We in France gonna soon have the same !

[garyb]

Ok, let's move on now.

How are Mexican reacting there? I have lots of friends in Mexico, but not living in USA, but in Mexico itself. What is going on right now for them legally?

i don't really know for sure, but i think that the whole Mexico issue is really blown out of proportion. US citizens can't just emigrate to Mexico anytime that they want, and Mexicans aren't supposed to do the same. no country can allow completely open borders.

where Mexico might really feel a sting is if Trump renegotiates or exits NAFTA, the free trade agreement. actually, for Americans, this would be great because American factories would stop being relocated to Mexico. i'm sure that Mexicans don't want this, but actually, i think that it's vital for Americans that it happens.

[dawman]

Nothing will happen.
Trump wants to go after the criminals and gangs.

But hes a businessman. Not a politician.
To ensure an 8 year term the smart play would be a pathway to citizenship.
Make it a long drawn out program so he can secure that voting block.
The majority of Mexicans are good hard working family orientated people.

Americans love thier Mexican brothers.
I even liked the drug dealers since I got 8 balls for 60 bucks.
These days Im so straight I have to lay down just to take a shit.

But Trump is a jack off prick son of a bitch.
Perfect type of ball buster to get things done.
Hes out smarted thess pathetic politicians.
They continue spending billions and losing.
He spends very little and wins.

Never had such an arrogant jack off for a President.
Oddly enough I kind of like him.
Reminds me of the boss that is a dick, never thanks you but gets things done.
Then 2 years later, out of nowhere tells you that you're really valuable and he likes you.
Suddenly you feel good and want to work even harder now.

Hard to understand, but its happened to me a few times now...

[Sounddesigner]

Ok, let's move on now.

How are Mexican reacting there? I have lots of friends in Mexico, but not living in USA, but in Mexico itself. What is going on right now for them legally?

i don't really know for sure, but i think that the whole Mexico issue is really blown out of proportion. US citizens can't just emigrate to Mexico anytime that they want, and Mexicans aren't supposed to do the same. no country can allow completely open borders.

where Mexico might really feel a sting is if Trump renegotiates or exits NAFTA, the free trade agreement. actually, for Americans, this would be great because American factories would stop being relocated to Mexico. i'm sure that Mexicans don't want this, but actually, i think that it's vital for Americans that it happens.

Another advantage that Mexico has over USA is that they charge 16% VAT tax for American goods going into their country to be sold but we have no VAT for them. China has a lot of goods coming into America but make it extremely difficult to impossible for American companies to sell their goods to the Chinese people. Both countries are also getting our jobs due to factories moving to them. They're getting over on us in multiple ways. Plus we get Mexico's people who have third-world problems illegally immigrating here.

Americans love immigrants as long as they come legally. There is over a million legal immigrants every year wich we welcome. You can't add 100's of thousands of illegals to the legal and not have it change the content and character of your country in a way you can't control and wish not. Americans also have a right to protect their culture, religion, language, voting power, jobs, school system, hospitals, etc. Illegal immigration is not a victimless crime, but a crime that leads to Americans loosing jobs and paying for their schooling, hospital, policing, incarceration, deportations, welfare programs, etc. Illegal immigration is a form of theft and burglary into our home that is seriously harming us. We have many Americans who are legit citizens that we don't take care of enough such as our veterans or many in our innercities wich suffer from urban-decay. We must help ourselves first and then help those countries without flooding in large numbers of their citizens. We are a caring people just not a stupid people, this is one of the main reasons why Trump won.

America gives more to charity than any other nation, we are a VERY caring and giving nation but the line has to be drawn somewhere. We can't be too giving and give away our country and children's birth-right. It's not even about helping those immigrant people, the democrats only want political advantage cause the Hispanics tend to vote for them. Republicans only want cheap labour for their cronies. American people are giving and like to help as long as it's done the right way but our politicians aren't allowing it cause they wish to help but rather for political advantage and self-enrichment.

American people are good caring people, we donate, we take care of our old with Sociol Security, our sick and disabled with SSI, our poor with welfare, etc but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Ronald Reagan once said "a country without a border is not a country at all" wich is true and very dangerouse. Americans now see the harm that many decades of illegal immigrants pouring in is causing us and the absolute disaster it's leading to.

[dawman]

The line will be drawn.
With the politicians who are basically 2 law firms representing thier clients and investors.
Which is not us.

Diversity benefits everyone.
But the voters should decide thier fate.
Not these lawyers or thier investors who only care about cheap labor and regime change.

I still do not trust Trump.
But what have we got to lose at this point?
I got through 8 years of lies and failures.
Before that 8 years of lies and markets collapsing.

He cant be worse than these super wealthy liars that promise to tax themselves just to help out us dummies.