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Everything is going as planned

No doubt! I too prefer Donald Trump over any of the corrupted globalists, even if I don’t agree with all his thoughts and ideas. At least he goes in favor of old American values.

Now, I have to say, I agree with Alex Jones when he says that “the storm has begun”, he tells so here, exhausted after a 52 hours transmission news:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KON9ZvzjZMk

There are so many good brave people involved in defeating them right now, there are many Snowden hidden brains, so to say, so many whistleblowers ready to attack from within: in the military, in the CIA, in the FDA, from the corrupt Foundations, the Police, the FMI, the Banks and their corrupt plans (!) [I have an Indian friend myself who is doing an excellent job telling us the disgusting moves certain banks are preparing for the poor people and their precious money, he is in a strategic post and knows very well about this]. There are whistleblowers even coming from the spheres of the secret government itself now… amazing…, I have been waiting this for many years, and I am extremely happy that there is people with such level of compromise to the extent of putting their lives at risk for humanity. AT LAST!!! there is a consciousness upraise!!! against all this putrefaction.

No doubt, the globalists in the USA have been FORCED to get out of the way (for the moment), because all the dirty Clinton crap was ready to come up to the streets in the form of legal prosecutions, legal signed documents of enormous weight and explode in their faces, so they have preferred to get out and clean their records with the typical disgusting procedures of always. They could not trick the world in the polls, because awareness was raised all the way up, so too many eyes were ready to jump onto any fraud.

BUT…, these horrible venomous people have shown us, consistently, that they are extremely covetous and greedy and awfully jealous of their territory, so… even if having a “different” government is great, the evil to be eradicated from the world is SOOOOOO big, that…….. the entire world is at maximum risk.

The best thing I get from this unespected move of our history, is TIME! With the Clinton, everything bad would have gong faster, with Trump, at least it will take a little longer, perhaps a few months, this is what I think, but it is already great news, nevertheless.

Nestor wrote:TIME!

Great! So the atomic war you have been ranting about for the last 5 years is now postponded? Or is Nibirus trajectory adjusted following these great news?

https://mobile.twitter.com/MileyCyrus/s ... 24/video/1

Grief counsellors were booked up in Hollywood for weeks.
So twitter is a great place to document your inner feelings.

heeheehee...

I would encourage everyone to enjoy Trumps victory
Especially from the view of the people who suffered most from the economical globalisation as embodied by all the Clintons of modern capitalism, as there are the rost belt victoms in their abandoned neighbourhoods, the farmers who can't get rid of their products anymore, the medium-sized enterprises and local shop holders, etc.

The hate against Washington, being the Democrats as well as the Republicans, is deep, and Trump offers a new hope to get a better life, if not for them selves then still for their children. The American Dream, yes.

Yet, the notorious conspiracy lovers on this forum, as constantly poked by unguided projectile and romantic fantasist Nestor and kept militant by the all knowing but totally biased Garyb, perform a fundamentally different struggle here: that of hatred against any government (above sheriff level), accomplished by unproven game-like fantasies of mega masterplans of the ultimate Elite.
Trump's victory may satisfy your feelings of revanche, but it still is a different struggle, and some of you might know that.
Trump is the new president of the United States, not the local sheriff.
To expect a real improvement of the economical position of the losers of the globalisation from the president of the US is a gotspe if you're a conspiracy believer, a contradictio in terminis so to say.

Which brings us to the question if Trump will be able to improve the economical situation of the deprived class, if willing at all...
Personally, from a psychological point of view, I think Trump is a handy narcist with a gifted ability to know how to impress his audience to make it buy his product, being himself.
Now that he's chosen as the great Saviour, let's see what he might get done.
There's a strong version and a light version of his possible economical policies.

The strong version:
- Trump blocks Chinees and Mexican products with barriers to entry, tariffs of 40% are implemented.
- Trump will reject existing trade treats like Nafta and refuse new ones like TTIP and TPP
Results: a worldwide wave of international protectionism, a shrinking world economy, and social revolts against poverty.
This will cause a new wave of lost of jobs, and a worldwide economical depression.

Result : exit Trump.

The light version:
- Trump, pressed by diplomat advisors and lobbyists, decides to be pragmatically, and decides to keep the military bases in Japan and South Korea to keep China in it's political position and to keep stability in the Asiatic region as a whole.
- At the same time he lets China know to respect the headlines of former agreements and on TPP, and sells at home some new concessions as big victory.
All this in order to 'keep America great' instead of 'make America great again'...
Only TTIP won't survive, but that wouldn't make Europe mourne, given the todays' political situation in Europe.
- The big Wall with Mexico shows as not realistic, Trump concentrates on demonstrative activities of expelling illegal immigrants which gets disappointing by juridical 'swamps', and his voting power base gets increasingly frustrated.

Result, maybe during his second term: exit Trump.

In the meantime the old Trump electorate of the country side moved to the city or died already, and the millenniums - who voted left for almost 100% in 2016 - and their grown children take over with the new Bernie Sanders of 2024


Meaning: I wouldn't cheer so hard now about Trump's victory...
And I'm not saying this because in a one-man-one-vote system Trump would've lost the 2016 elections...

cheers, and enjoy the victory, like I do, as a leftie, when thinking on the neglected and marginalised masses as set aside by international capital - economically that is, as socio-culturally I don't sympathise with the deprived class...
think of abortion, personal chosen euthanasia, homosexuality, use of drugs, public cursing, cursing on telly, saying fuck on telly, or fucking on telly

hubird wrote:Interesting read about the chances for Trump respectively Clinton:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ele ... c62484e56a

The 'hiding' voters for Trump are a possible game changer tho

Which was what happened...

As i didn't trust the medea for 100% regarding the chances of Trump to win or lose the elections, I decided to sell all my exchange stocks before the elections.
Tthe stocks went down rapidly in the night of Trump's victory, but surprisingly also recovered during the day after
But that can still change when Trump's plans get public, so I don't regret
Financially I won anyway

I planned a new 2nd h. camper van for myself, didn't want to risk the buy.
I want a bit more comfort than my VW Transporter van offers.
Like a permanent bed, a toilet and a shower cabin.

Looking for a Mercedes Sprinter campervan now, because of the strong engine.
Want to get some Spanish sun by end Januari or so...

do NOT speak about what i believe or prefer. you do not comprehend me properly. period.

you do not control me properly. period

I approve this message: that's exactly what I was arguing about, in my post above, speaking about economical versus socio-cultural motives.
As a non-native English speaker it takes some time to express the same

You don't like my camper van plans?

dawman wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/MileyCyrus/s ... 24/video/1

Grief counsellors were booked up in Hollywood for weeks.
So twitter is a great place to document your inner feelings.

siriusbliss wrote:Everything is going as planned

Hm, I thought,
Trump was planned...
to make Clinton president...
in order to create a revolte of the masses...
making WW III possible...
intentionally to start world population decimation!!



AAAAARRRHHHggrrhh!!!

hubird wrote:you do not control me properly. period

does that mean that you wanna fight about it?

i am just telling you to stop putting words into my mouth.

do you want to play nice?


by the way, don't delete it, just don't do it again. ever.

ever?

I didn't put any words into your mouth.
And IF I make an interpretation of your views you may fight it if you want.
That's all.

You have put yourself out of communication by rejecting virtually every single word I say.
Literally a categorial denying of what I'm saying.
Enjoy it, but don't tell me what to say

hubird wrote:

siriusbliss wrote:Everything is going as planned

Hm, I thought,
Trump was planned...
to make Clinton president...
in order to create a revolte of the masses...
making WW III possible...
intentionally to start world population decimation!!



AAAAARRRHHHggrrhh!!!

No, no. The Bilderberg / Rothschild plans

yeah, I know, I know

Well. here's something for us all:
Don't Move To Canada Just Yet

For those who'd have preferred Clinton: it is definitely therapeutic and possibly a bit healing.

And for the victory cryers: it is doubtles strongly confirming their feelings of revenge and joy, seeing and hearing the suffering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evVKFFL1iTs
it's well done

dawman wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/MileyCyrus/s ... 24/video/1

Grief counsellors were booked up in Hollywood for weeks.
So twitter is a great place to document your inner feelings.

so much crap in the street today... how sensitive...

Nestor wrote: so much crap in the street today... :

criticise them, but crap? let them people have an outlet, Nestor.
They are in a shock, which is even understandable if you remember all the shocking new treating hate stuff which Trump said about mexicans, the disabled, women, latinos, jews, etc. (not talking about the pure political stuff he said).

Remember when Obama got president?
The hatred was all over the place at the losers side of the elections back then. Tea Party, KKK, the racists...
Same stuff as now, worse even

again, last time-
say what you want, but don't put words into my mouth.
can you understand that?
if not, don't post.

if you can't be reasonably civil, there's no point to your presence.
we don't have to agree, you don't have to like me, we can argue.
if you are going to print words that i never said and attribute them to me(or to anyone else), we're going to have a problem.

mán, you should read your own words and apply them to yourself!
speak out if you have to say something, I even don't have a clue you're talking about.
I'm a free man, even if I would say something you don't agree with.
yikes.

You put yourself always in the middle of the heat, much too much even for a moderator, but that's your choice.
Buthen expect to see some fire coming to you at some times.
Bah!