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Sunshine
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Post by Sunshine »

Please guys,

Of course all this Bombfactory, UAD and Powercore stuff is great... But you wouldn´t want to have a 1176 or LA-2A on every channel... Just imagine how it would be to have a UREI-Console....IMO that wouldn´t sound right. But nonetheless their stuff rocks and yes, depending on your front-end it will gain the quality of your recordings more or less.

I regard the CW system more as a stand-alone mixer that gives you the possibility to hook up external gear and where you have EQ, compressors and many other tools like the EARLYFIRST verbs, DSPDEV or TIMEWORKS plugs that really do have a high quality. Did some of you ever compare the Dir-X versions of the Timeworks plugs to the "hardware" versions of our platform?? The Dir-X plugs don´t even come close the CW versions. It´s not only processing power!

But I think we shouldn´t get sarcastic when someone demands the Bombfactory on our platform or the M5000 compressors, because those tools belong to the "normal" production enviroment. And we all want to have them... And yes there certainly were some issues whith compatibilty and the way CW promotes their products.....but when you look at "Digi-001" you´ll see that that card is as picky as our card, concerning MB and chipset. And everyone who has ever worked whith the "Protools" thing knows that their OS isn´t free of bugs.

This platform has it´s quality and I prefer it over the 02R or Ramsa, because of the possibilities to "alter" the sound whithout necessarily having to go extern. I´m not bitching about those consoles because you get good pre-amps and converters and EQs whith the Ramsa and whith the 02R you can get additional hardware plugs like the Finalizer or Apogee converters

But after all I still think, that what our platform really needs are more plugs from 3rd parties to gain reputation in the pro world... Just look at "Soundscape" they do only have a hand-full of Pro-plugs... and that system is really regarded as a very stable recording and mixing platform, whith tons of happy users. Their only concern is not having enough Plugs and their system lacks a little bit of processing power...


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Sunshine
King of Snake
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Post by King of Snake »

He does have a point about 3rd party support though.
It seems the already very thin stream of new ddevices has all but completely dried up now. There is no word from CW to tell us more support is on the way or not, they just keep very quiet about it. Surely they must realise that if this situation continues, there won't be many new customers in a year's time.
Of course there are many great existing devices and but this is a fast moving industry and without decent support, today's winner could be tommorow' s loser (just look at the Oasys).

And it's not even like I have the money to buy new devices myself, I just want to hear from CW that there is actually improvement for the future. Not only in new 3rd party products but also their own. For example a redesign of the STS samplers is needed pretty badly IMO.

Of course CW has been busey with SFP but it sure wouldn't hurt to get some more info out to the customers about the future of the platform.
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Zer
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Post by Zer »

I disagree. The result is the only thing which count´s and the faster the results - the better (unfortunaley I´m not a pro-musician, so my time {and the dsp power}is limited and I can´t spend hours with routing, cabling and handling emulated mindisplays of 20 year old hardware [sts related]}- and in fact in germany pulsar is marketed as the allround solution - ideal for beginners use and it can do anything incl. ironing trousers - no knowledge required) - Smart results don´t have ANYTHING to do with pro-equipment. I know successfull producers, which are running a very simple setup. By the way until SFP I never experienced a softwareupdate which killed my vgard agp support.
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